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PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 2:06 pm    Post subject: Sharing Vonage with two households Reply with quote Back to top

We are in a rural area and I have a Vonage line that works great. I would like to be able to share it with my uncle who's house is about 1000 feet away from mine. Is there a simple solution to this that is not too expensive? Ideally, I want to wireless jack so that the transmitter is at my house and he uses the receiver. The problem is that all of the ones I've found use the house's electrical system for both... which won't work in this case. Any help would be appreciated.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 2:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

1000 feet? thats a long long phone cord. and you would need like 10 ring boosters. or a cordless phone with handsets that had some incredible transmitters. I can't think of any wasy way. A line that long would have all kinds of attenuation problems - you can't just run a bunch of phone cords out there, and no cordless phone set will reach that far. Hmmm...wireless TCP/IP bridges with huge directional antennas?
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1000 feet? thats a long long phone cord. and you would need like 10 ring boosters. or a cordless phone with handsets that had some incredible transmitters. I can't think of any wasy way. A line that long would have all kinds of attenuation problems - you can't just run a bunch of phone cords out there, and no cordless phone set will reach that far. Hmmm...wireless TCP/IP bridges with huge directional antennas?


I have an old DLink DI624 with two external directional antennas, but I'm not sure how this woul d help us. Even if I got a clear TCP/IP connection at his house, how does he get to share my Vonage line?

EDIT: BTW, the distance is probably more like 300 feet. It only feels like a 1000 feet when you walk it... lol.
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sorry I misread - you couldn't share the same Vonage account using a wireless bridge. You could share your internet connection with a pair of wireless routers or bridges but not the Vonage line itself, not easily...
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 4:14 pm    Post subject: Re: Sharing Vonage with two households Reply with quote Back to top

caralmar wrote:
We are in a rural area and I have a Vonage line that works great. I would like to be able to share it with my uncle who's house is about 1000 feet away from mine. Is there a simple solution to this that is not too expensive? Ideally, I want to wireless jack so that the transmitter is at my house and he uses the receiver. The problem is that all of the ones I've found use the house's electrical system for both... which won't work in this case. Any help would be appreciated.


If you have clear line of sight from one house to the other, maybe, just maybe, you could put a directional antenna on a 2.4 GHz cordless phone base station, and get a signal all the way to your uncle's house. Any standard WiFi "signal booster" antenna should be compatible with 2.4GHz cordless phones, since they use the same frequencies.

You'd need one of the cordless phones that has the base station and charger separate, so he can have a dedicated base station at your house with a directional antenna pointed at his house, and still charge the phone over at his house. You want a directional antenna to increase range, and to keep anyone else from intercepting the signal. Get and test a few cordless phones in the 900Mhz, 2.4GHz, and 5.8GHz ranges. You never know, you might just find one that works, as long as you can figure out a way to charge the remote unit.

300 feet is a little long for a conventional telephone cable, but you might be able to use good quality Cat 5 shielded cable with RJ11 connectors on each end to make a connection between your houses, if you can do a cable run. No guarantees on that one, but you may be able to get a good signal across that way. Maybe. That would allow both sides to use wired or local cordless phones, but you'll have to figure out how to string the wires between the houses. I wouldn't bridge BOTH sets of household wires if you can help it - that's just asking for trouble as in really, really bad attenuation and possibly a burned out adapter, but it would be the most convenient to set up if you have RJ45 jacks outside at both houses.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 4:46 pm    Post subject: Re: Sharing Vonage with two households Reply with quote Back to top

caralmar wrote:
We are in a rural area and I have a Vonage line that works great. I would like to be able to share it with my uncle who's house is about 1000 feet away from mine. Is there a simple solution to this that is not too expensive? Ideally, I want to wireless jack so that the transmitter is at my house and he uses the receiver. The problem is that all of the ones I've found use the house's electrical system for both... which won't work in this case. Any help would be appreciated.


Give us some idea of your price range.

Option A: Since you state in a later message that he could have IP then the ideal solution would be to add a second line and a second adapter at his house. The biggest benefit of this is that you are able to call each other. The biggest downside is the recurring cost.

Option B: If you are computer savvy and have an old computer available, you can build an Asterisk server to serve as an internal PBX. You can connect it via analog to your adapter and your uncle can use an IP phone or adapter (non-Vonage).

Option C: The EnGenius SN-920 is a long range cordless phone available for about $340. This phone is FCC certified and external antennas are available to provide a range of up to 10km.

Option D: Possibly your cheapest option would be to attempt to use a exterior cordless phone antenna like the ones made by Wintenna. Depending on what type of phone you are using you might find one from $35 to $100.

Obviously options C & D do not allow for the connection of Fax machines or TiVos.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2005 8:52 pm    Post subject: Re: Sharing Vonage with two households Reply with quote Back to top

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caralmar wrote:
We are in a rural area and I have a Vonage line that works great. I would like to be able to share it with my uncle who's house is about 1000 feet away from mine. Is there a simple solution to this that is not too expensive? Ideally, I want to wireless jack so that the transmitter is at my house and he uses the receiver. The problem is that all of the ones I've found use the house's electrical system for both... which won't work in this case. Any help would be appreciated.


Give us some idea of your price range.

Option A: Since you state in a later message that he could have IP then the ideal solution would be to add a second line and a second adapter at his house. The biggest benefit of this is that you are able to call each other. The biggest downside is the recurring cost.

Option B: If you are computer savvy and have an old computer available, you can build an Asterisk server to serve as an internal PBX. You can connect it via analog to your adapter and your uncle can use an IP phone or adapter (non-Vonage).

Option C: The EnGenius SN-920 is a long range cordless phone available for about $340. This phone is FCC certified and external antennas are available to provide a range of up to 10km.

Option D: Possibly your cheapest option would be to attempt to use a exterior cordless phone antenna like the ones made by Wintenna. Depending on what type of phone you are using you might find one from $35 to $100.

Obviously options C & D do not allow for the connection of Fax machines or TiVos.


I was looking to spend no more than $300 for this solution. I will look at the wintenna idea. Thanks!
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 13, 2005 6:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Dude! that engenius 10km phone sounds incredible! You could be tooling around the town talking on your cordless phone! Make the whole town your backyard. you and your uncle could talk on intercom mode the whole time.
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