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PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2005 8:51 pm    Post subject: ICRDSVPA1C Reply with quote Back to top

Been trying to figure this out for the last 3 weeks to no avail. We just moved into our new house and I have been trying to get Vonage working so we can use our tivo box we just got, but I cannot get dialtone to any ports in the house.

Right now there is a media panel in the garage that houses a punch down panel with the ID tag of ICRDSVPA1C (see link).

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When we ordered Verizon Fios the installer punched down his own line into the middle block which I assume to be the input block. After researching the forums I disconnected the feed and tried punching down my own rj-11 cable to the input block, but have yet to get dial-tone.

I do get dial-tone on the RJ-31X Jack.

B/c there is only one port going into each room I had to pull off 2 pair from each of the 8 blocks in order to cap them with RJ-45 so I could at least get internet to each room. The only wires remaining on the 8 blocks are the blue and brown pairs (cuz CAT-5 only uses orange and green pairs).

Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 9:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

The only thing I can think is that you are leaving something connected to the RJ31X jack that is seizing the line. Make sure that you don't have anything connected to your RJ31X jack and test your wall jacks again.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 10:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

So am I right about splicing one end of a rj-11 and punching it down to the input block then plugging the other end into phone 1 of the Vonage box?

If so what color pair do I punch down?
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 10:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Blue.

I would suggest that you punch down some wires from a cat-5 cable and wire up a jack. Then plug the Vonage box into the jack. In my opinion it is a nicer solution than cutting the end off of a line cord and punching it down.

You may want to read this post.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 10:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

So punch down all 4 pairs of a cat 5 to the input block then cap the end of the cat-5 with an rj-11 using the blue pair and plug that into the phone 1 port on the Voip router?
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 11:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

yeah, or you can just strip out the blue pair of the cat5 and just punch that down, no need for all of the extra cables. The only other thing you could do is punch down the orange pair of your cat 5 to the brown pair (the last remaining pair I believe) of your punch down block so that you can easily add line 2 in the future.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 12:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Suwheet... I will give it a shot. Thanks for the help.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 08, 2005 10:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Ok. Last night I tried to punch down a cat-5 cable to the input of the punch down block then cap the other end with an rj-11, but to no avail, so guess what? More questions Sad

The input block is setup as follows:

Blue White
Blue
Orange White
Orange
Green White
Green
Brown White
Brown

What I took from the guidance on this topic is to punch down one end of a cat 5 matching the wires to the punchdown block color code (given above). So now I can connect an rj-11 and an rj-45 connect to the other end right?

I bought some rj-11 4 pin connectors last night and had no idea which pins or in what order the blue pair should be connected to it.

Also, because I have no experience with this type of punch down block, in order to get the internet working I pulled the wires off the output blocks and capped the orange and green pairs with an rj-45 for each block. Then I plugged each rj-45 into a switch which was uplinked to the router. The order which the cables were capped were as follows:

Green White
Green
Orange
empty
empty
Orange White
empty
empty

This setup worked but it was ugly and required the use of a switch on top of already using the router. So following the theory that the input cable can carry both data and voice signals I removed the rj-45s and punched the wires back into the punch panel.

My question now is how should the wiring be configured that is going into the ethernet port on the router? I tried the above wire/pin configuration but it did not work.

Any idea how to cap the input cable with rj-45 so that it can share the internet connection as well as the Vonage connection?

Ultimately what should the capped end of the input cable going to the punch down block look like?

Been 3 weeks since I ordered Vonage and still have yet to get it successfully set up Sad
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 08, 2005 12:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

First, the way you had your data connections set up originally was correct. Although you might succede in distributing ethernet to all your jacks through the ICRDSVPA1C you could only distribute 1 port and therefore could only use one jack at a time. I am fairly certain this is not what you intended.

For your phone, connect white/blue to green and blue/white to red. That is line 1.

Typically you would use orange for line 2, but you are correctly using orange for ethernet so use brown. white/brows to black and brown/white to yellow. You will also need to change the wiring at the jacks to handle line 2 on brown. This shouldn't be a problem since you are also changing them to handle ethernet.

So, in summary remove green and orange pairs from the output blocks and connect them back to your switch. Wire a piece of cat 5 to the input block (blue and brown) and wire up RJ-11 jacks as described above.

You may want to wire up a temporary RJ-11 jack to an output block for testing.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 08, 2005 12:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

scerruti wrote:
First, the way you had your data connections set up originally was correct. Although you might succede in distributing ethernet to all your jacks through the ICRDSVPA1C you could only distribute 1 port and therefore could only use one jack at a time. I am fairly certain this is not what you intended.


So if there were 2 pcs on 2 different ports on the house they could not contact the router at the same time b/c they are both sharing the same pipe to the router? Really trying not to use the switch solution due to limited space in the media panel.

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For your phone, connect white/blue to green and blue/white to red. That is line 1.


On the rj-11 connector which of the 4 pins is green and red? There was no color distinction that I saw.

Thx for the responses thus far.
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