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PostPosted: Sun Mar 07, 2004 8:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

ok. here is my question if you will.-----am i imagining it, or do calls to different areas of the united states go through different avenues, thus taking advantage, or disadvantage of differetn codec in different end line..it seems i can count on all calls to one geogrpahic area to always be top notch, while calls to a different area of the US will always get the response from the other end that i am Breaking up??
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 07, 2004 10:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

The CODEC used is in fact negotiated by the sending and receiving ends. However, it is unlikely the Vonage is actually changing the CODEC type on a call-by-call basis.

Likely is simply that based upon your current internet provider, you have lower latency to one gateway of Global Crossing than to another.

Speed is really NOT the issue and numerous folks post, "my sound quality is crappy yet XYZ website reports by upload speed is XXX kbps and download speed is YYY kbsp".

Yes, using G.711 you need 90 kbps upload speed. However you need that consistently. Think in terms of a car, you can go 180 miles an hour, but hit a stop light and have to stop, it turns green again and you hit the acclerator back to 180 miles a hour. After 10 minutes you covered a certain distance and doing basic math -- you could say MY AVERAGE SPEED was 120 miles per hour. This is what those speed websites report!

Voip is NOT about speed, it's more about how many times did you NOT have to stop. Voip would be happiest, in the scenerio above, if you avg'd only 60 miles per hour but never saw a stop light.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 30, 2005 4:37 pm    Post subject: So what is the solution if you have a Linksys box? Reply with quote Back to top

I appreciate all of the explanations being posted here. My question is: what can be done if it is not a matter of speed? I have the free Linksys box, and my sound quality is terrible - so bad that I have trouble understanding people 15 miles away and am back to using my cellpone for all calls. I'm ready to cancel after only using it for one week. Mad I am rural, so I have broadband via a wireless connection beaming down from a nearby mountain. I don't have any other problems with the connection - I can downlad Shoutcast streams without problem, for instance. Can I do anything with the hardware or settings to optimize quality for Voip, or is this as good as it can be at this stage in the technology?
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 30, 2005 4:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

sounds like latency from the wireless connection.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 30, 2005 9:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Yep...Both wireless and satelite, while technically able to "use" Voip, are about as bad as you can get. Latency is usually WAy to high...sorry to be the bearer of not so hot news....
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 30, 2005 9:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

benheeha: Post your detailed 2-way results from a call to Boston on www.testyourvoip.com . If nothing else, it'll give you evidence of the problem in writing.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 01, 2005 11:53 am    Post subject: Some improvement, but still not like a landline Reply with quote Back to top

I lowered the bandwidth setting to 50kbps, and put my linksys adaptor before my d-link wireless router, and the quality is choppy less often, but still with periodic scrambling. Vonage tells me my upload speed is anywhere from 14 Eek to 140, on repeated tests done close together, and my quality anywhere from 4% Evil or Very Mad to 80%. It might indeed be the nature of getting my connection over radio waves - interference is a given...
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 01, 2005 1:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Maybe you have an... antenna thing that could be adjusted to get a stronger signal, and reduce the packet loss?
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2005 6:11 pm    Post subject: Antenna Reply with quote Back to top

I'll contact the broadband provider and see if they can adjust the antenna any better. They just eyeballed it before, aiming it at a mountain 10 miles away, so I doubt if it will make that much difference. Could just be the nature of the setup. I'll post when they give me an answer.
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