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PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2005 6:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2005 8:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Maybe I should qualify my statements a little bit more. It does not work if you have wired and wireless devices. My phone adapter is the only wired device in the WRT54G. The rest of the devices connect wirelessly to it. The QoS only applies to wired clients. Wireless devices can easily overrun any QoS configured thereby negating its effectiveness.

So, in essence, it doesn't work. The QoS should be applied to ALL traffic that it going outbound out of the WAN port. This is how QoS should work.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2005 8:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

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You're wasting your time. The QoS functionality on the WRT54G DOES NOT WORK. I have the same router, I already tinkered with all the settings.

Please don't state that as fact, because its just not true. Many of us who have QoS working quite well and are getting flawless Vonage performance behind our WRT54G's beg to differ with you. I'm not sure if its because of the firmware you're using, or the settings you're using, but it IS possible to get very good QoS with the WRT54G. I'm not wasting my time - my Vonage adapter works flawlessly behind my WRT54G with the correct QoS settings.

Oh, by the way, you state that you can't get it to work "even with the latest firmware, 4.20.7" 4.20.7 is not the latest official firmware release.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2005 8:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Celeron wrote:
So, in essence, it doesn't work.

Again, yes it does work. And I have both wired and wireless clients connected to my router. So please quit stating that "it doesn't work" - it may not work for you for some reason, but it DOES work quite well for many of us.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2005 8:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

DallasFlier wrote:
Celeron wrote:
You're wasting your time. The QoS functionality on the WRT54G DOES NOT WORK. I have the same router, I already tinkered with all the settings.

Please don't state that as fact, because its just not true. Many of us who have QoS working quite well and are getting flawless Vonage performance behind our WRT54G's beg to differ with you. I'm not sure if its because of the firmware you're using, or the settings you're using, but it IS possible to get very good QoS with the WRT54G. I'm not wasting my time - my Vonage adapter works flawlessly behind my WRT54G with the correct QoS settings.

Oh, by the way, you state that you can't get it to work "even with the latest firmware, 4.20.7" 4.20.7 is not the latest official firmware release.


It is a fact. If you think its working properly its because you aren't testing correctly. Secondly, 4.20.7 is the latest firmware. See here:
http://www.linksys.com/servlet/Satellite?childpagename=US%2FLayout&packedargs=c%3DL_Download_C2%26cid%3D1115417109974%26sku%3D1121874579215&pagename=Linksys%2FCommon%2FVisitorWrapper

If you want to test your "qos" this is what you need to do.
1. Make a long distance phone call to someone. A local call is not sufficient.

2. Speak with the person, ensure the voice quality is decent in both directions.

3. Fire up your favorite FTP client and connect to an FTP site where you can upload data.

4. Start a large file upload, 40-50 megs should be sufficient.

5. During the upload, speak to the party on the other end. Your voice will be choppy and broken.

Note, this assumes your upload rate is ~384k. A higher transfer rate will mask the problem slightly because the serialization delay is lower as the speed goes up.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2005 8:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

DallasFlier wrote:
Celeron wrote:
So, in essence, it doesn't work.

Again, yes it does work. And I have both wired and wireless clients connected to my router. So please quit stating that "it doesn't work" - it may not work for you for some reason, but it DOES work quite well for many of us.


Its not that it doesn't work for me, its that it doesn't work period. Testing with just basic web traffic is not a good enough test. You don't need any QoS in that regard.

If you would like to continue thinking it works great for you, that's fine. Just know that it is broken and you will probably may never notice it because your incoming voice quality will be fine, its the outgoing that suffers. In the end its the people you call who have to endure the poor quality, not yourself.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2005 8:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Celeron wrote:
It is a fact. If you think its working properly its because you aren't testing correctly. Secondly, 4.20.7 is the latest firmware. See here:
http://www.linksys.com/servlet/Satellite?childpagename=US%2FLayout&packedargs=c%3DL_Download_C2%26cid%3D1115417109974%26sku%3D1121874579215&pagename=Linksys%2FCommon%2FVisitorWrapper

If you want to test your "qos" this is what you need to do.
1. Make a long distance phone call to someone. A local call is not sufficient.

2. Speak with the person, ensure the voice quality is decent in both directions.

3. Fire up your favorite FTP client and connect to an FTP site where you can upload data.

4. Start a large file upload, 40-50 megs should be sufficient.

5. During the upload, speak to the party on the other end. Your voice will be choppy and broken.

Note, this assumes your upload rate is ~384k. A higher transfer rate will mask the problem slightly because the serialization delay is lower as the speed goes up.


I'm sorry, sir, but it is NOT a fact! Please don't try to lecture me on "not testing properly", because frankly, you don't know what you're talking about and I don't like being insulted. I'm a computer and network engineer with 25 years experience in the field, and trust me - I DO know what I'm doing, and I have done sufficient testing and used it in this configuration for long enough to know its working just fine - with wired and wireless clients.

I have not tried the latest Linksys firmware - 4.20.9, nor 4.20.7, but with the firmware I'm using, I'll guarantee you that QoS is working just fine, and my audio quality is very dependable in both directions, no matter how heavily I'm loading the connection.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2005 9:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

I find it highly amusing that you would pull out the "I've been doing this for blah blah blah number of years" card. That's really quite childish. As you can see by clicking the link I've already proved you were wrong about the latest version of Linksys firmware. You would also see, if you actually did the proper tests, that QoS does NOT work, as I've stated.

I initially did the same test I'm sure you're did. I did an upload, called my cell phone and checked the audio quality in both directions. It was flawless, I thought everything was great. So I tested again, this time with a long distance number, out of state, and did the same test. My outbound quality was terrible. I played with every damn setting on the WRT54G, none of them made any difference, which is not surprising because it doesn't actually do anything.

You claim to be a network engineer. Thats great, what does that have to do with voice over IP? Do you have any sort of fundamental understanding of how it works, the protocols involved, and what types of things can cause issues such at these? Do you have any understanding of basic POTS technology and that side of the equation? I'm guessing you don't because if you did you would know how to do the proper tests to ensure that everything is working properly. I'm sure you are like other people who believe that all of your voice traffic goes to vonage.com when you make a call.

Once you understand the basics maybe you can continue this conversation in a professional manner. Until then, I'm done with this thread. I can tell you, FOR A FACT, that it DOES NOT WORK, but you can think whatever you want.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2005 9:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

I put the mac ID of the phone adapter in and labeled it Vonage and set the priority to highest.

For ethernet port priority I set all to LOW and disable. Is this correct?

I was told earlier no it isn't correct and I sure set the ethernet port priority back to the default settings, if this is so, may I have those settings since I had already set all to LOW and DISABLE.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2005 9:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

daygo140 wrote:
I put the mac ID of the phone adapter in and labeled it Vonage and set the priority to highest.

For ethernet port priority I set all to LOW and disable. Is this correct?

I was told earlier no it isn't correct and I sure set the ethernet port priority back to the default settings, if this is so, may I have those settings since I had already set all to LOW and DISABLE.

That's correct, except the default for ethernet port priority for all four ports is "LOW" and "enable", and that's how mine is set.

Please ignore the poster who continues to insist that it doesn't work, and all of us who have it working will continue to assist you.

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