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PostPosted: Sat Dec 03, 2005 10:09 pm    Post subject: Local call forwarding Reply with quote Back to top

Hi guys,

I have been using my Vonage account for a few months, mainly because of the cheap long distance. I live in Montreal (and have a montreal number) and my girlfriend is in Alberta. There is a telus cell phone plan that has free unlimited local incoming calls. My question is: if I forward my Vonage calls to my cell phone (while I am in Montreal) will my cell phone consider this a local call or not?

I hope someone knows

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 03, 2005 11:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

It matters not where the call comes from, but where you are... so if you have a Montreal cell phone # and you are on a Montreal-local tower, then it is a local call as far as your cell phone is concerned.

It will count against your Vonage minutes (unless you have an unlimited Vonage plan of course).
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 05, 2005 8:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Thanks for the response

Do you know if it is any different if I had a virtual number from Alberta and that was called?
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 05, 2005 9:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

It doesn't matter where the call comes from at all.

Now if you're in Edmonton and your Voip forwards to your cell phone... you'll pay toll on every call, even calls from Edmonton.

Don't worry about where the calls from. To pay toll on your cell phone on incoming calls, you have to be on a tower outside of your local calling area at home. If you can call your own cell phone as a local call from your cell phone, then you're good.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2005 1:19 am    Post subject: Basically Reply with quote Back to top

What he is trying to say is that the local has nothing to do with where the call originated from.

All that it pertains to is where the phone is when it recieves the call. As long as you are within your HLR (Home Location Registrar, read as 'local calling area') then you are not charged...

In other words, as long as you aren't roaming, all incoming calls, no matter where they are coming from, are free!

Pretty sweet plan if you get alot of incoming calls... not so sweet if you make lots of outbound! Wink

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2006 4:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

I reside in Saskatchewan, Vonage does not have Sask area codes available, so my Vonage line is an Edmonton, Alberta number. When I visited Edmonton in the beginning of December, I had my Vonage line forwarded to my cell phone. My cell phone has a Sask. Number. Logic would seem that since I'm in Edmonton, if someone dialed my edmonton Vonage number, it should then be transferred to my cell phone AS my Vonage number calling me... but no. It did not. Resulting in very expensive incoming calls. The call does not get redialed to you from your Vonage line. If the person calling you is calling long distance, they're paying to call your Vonage line, and thus their bill reflects your Vonage # as the billed call, however, your cell phone reflects the actual phone number they're calling from as the long distance # calling you, not your Vonage line. So beware of this, it does fluctuate the price you pay in long distance charges when using your cell phone. Especially when the call in coming to you in another province.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2006 7:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

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I had my Vonage line forwarded to my cell phone. My cell phone has a Sask. Number. Logic would seem that since I'm in Edmonton, if someone dialed my edmonton Vonage number, it should then be transferred to my cell phone AS my Vonage number calling me... but no. It did not. Resulting in very expensive incoming calls. The call does not get redialed to you from your Vonage line.


sorry, but you were VERY confused, here's how it works, Photo Jim had it correct as well..

Cell phones, (bell, rogers, telus, fido, whoever) work on your home area! ok, to make it easy, lets say you have a Toronto phone number.. while you are IN Toronto all calls you receive are local to you and therefore not charged, it doesn't matter if the call comes form Toronto, Vancouver, Miami, or Tokyo, you will not be charged.. ok, so now you take your Toronto cell phone to Montreal, EVERY SINGLE call you receive will be charged LD to YOU! cuz you are paying for the call to be transfered from Toronto to Montreal's cel towers to your cell phone..
so someone in Montreal calls your TO# they pay LD AND SO DO YOU! if someone in TO calls you, then they are dialing local TO # so they don't pay but you still pay cuz you're not in TO..

now I know you're out west in SK and AB, but the same applies, you had a local number fo a city in SK, as soon as you go away form that city's local calling area then you have to pay for the incomming calls.. you were in Edmonton, so you could call an Edmonton # for free, but when they called you you have to pay cuz you still have a home area of Small City in SK..

having your Vonage forwarding involved does not make any difference, since the call is still a LD incomming cell call cuz you're not at home anymore.


ppl get this messed up all the time, they think they pay for incomming LD calls in their home area, but they don't..

there is no real easy way of knowing if you're going to be charged LD to answer your phoen or not, other than the suggestion above about calling yoru cell's number w/o a 1, and seeing if you get voicemail, or a recording saying it's LD call.. but this isn't always the 100% accurate case either, its all up to the cell provider as to what area they consider 'home' or 'not home'..



the only way to avoid incomming LD cell calls are to use Roamer Access Numbers, but those are going away with ceaper LD rates and free LD plans.. Bell cell's can use them still, but they aren't listed anymore.. I won't get into the details on them unless someone askes, but I dont' have alist of them, I used to a long time ago, they had them accross Canada and the US using Sprints network..

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