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PostPosted: Mon Nov 21, 2005 3:55 pm    Post subject: Vonage Slows Internet Web Surfing Performance to a Crawl Reply with quote Back to top

For 2 years I had Comcast highspeed internet (broadband) with a NetGear wireless home network for my laptop, and web surfing performance was great on both my wired desktop and wireless laptop.

Recently I added Vonage Voip, replacing my old NetGear wireless-G router with the Vonage/Linksys WRTP54G combined unit, keeping the same D-Link DCM-200 cable modem.

Now my surfing performance is awfull, almost unusable with standard Vonage settings. I lowered the bandwith saver to the minimum, and that helped but performance is still way worse than before I added Voip.

If I remove the Vonage router, and reconnect without it, my good performace returns. Oh b-t-w, the Voip works fine.

Anyway have any thoughts on how to get back my network performace without cancelling Vonage ? Thanx !
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 21, 2005 9:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

What are your up and download speeds with and without the WRT on line?

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 21, 2005 10:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

This is just my opinion, based on everything I see posted here over a period of time, so take it for what its worth, although I am a computer/network professional with over 25 years in the field.

I haven't ever tried using one of the Vonage routers as a primary router, I only use them as phone adapters, behind a primary router with a good reputation for performance and functionality. With the Vonage routers, you're completely at Vonage's mercy, as they control the firmware, you can't touch it yourself. You can find LOTS of threads here, complaining about poor router performance of one kind or another, for the Vonage combo routers, no matter which model of router it is. (Yes, I know *some* people seem to have no issues with them, but *many* issues are raised here, on an ongoing basis.) Vonage is primarily concerned with the performance of the box as a Voip telephone adapter, not as a router. I don't think there's likely any priority at Vonage with regards to how well the thing performs as a router, vs. as a Voip adapter. Firmware releases are done to fix telephone bugs and improve Voip performance, not to enhance router performance.

So, again, for what its worth - MY recommendation is to get a GOOD router, and put the Vonage box behind it, just as a Vonage adapter. This is exactly what I've done with my Linksys/Vonage RT31P2, which sits behind my WRT54G router. You need 2 key things with your main router. First, good, solid, reliable, high performance as a router. Second, capable QoS functionality to make sure you can set the QoS for the Vonage adapter to assure good phone performance.

My recommendation on both counts - get a Linksys WRT54G - v4 or earlier - avoid the v5. This router is mature, has gone through many releases of firmware, both Linksys and 3rd party, and is known for high performance as well as good QoS capability. And, you should be able to find one for $50 or less, after rebates. Set it up as your primary router, plug the Vonage router in behind it, set the QoS parameters and you should have great internet performance and reliable phone service too. That's my setup on my 6M Comcast connection, and I've recommended and helped set up several friends the same way - it works great.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 8:20 am    Post subject: Poor I-Net Performace Reply with quote Back to top

Good ideas guys ! Following some other posts, I replaced my old D-Link DCM-200 modem with a new Motorola SB5120. The config is SB5120 modem, into Vonage/Linksys WRTP54g and performace is a lot better ! Runnning the Voip test at:

http://www.vonage-forum.com/voip-speed-test.html

I got:
up 370 kbps
down 2.91 mbps
QOS 39%
RTT 32ms
Max Pause 47ms

Any more ideas for improvement, unless I get a separate wireless router ? In that case you go modem -> wireless router -> Vonage adapter ?

Thanx again !
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 9:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

I have an IPCOP machine with a QOS add-in that gives me fabulous flexibility:

http://www.ipcop.org
http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/QoS_2.5_-_Advanced_Traffic_Shaping_for_IPCop
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 4:28 pm    Post subject: Am I reading this right? Reply with quote Back to top


If I am, it sounds like I should be happy with the Motorola Reconditioned VT1005RB adapter plugged into a port on my AirLink 101 Super G wireless router.

I'm right on the verge of finally getting a Vonage account and want to be sure I'm making the BEST connection device choice possible. The reason I ask is that I want to continue getting Super G speed to my laptop and it appears (in the setup graphics) that I would need to connect the wireless router to the Motorola adapter and not the other way around. If I did that, I'd lose Super G wouldn't I?

Thanks for any help/suggestions you might make.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 6:44 pm    Post subject: Re: Am I reading this right? Reply with quote Back to top

Slotracker wrote:

If I am, it sounds like I should be happy with the Motorola Reconditioned VT1005RB adapter plugged into a port on my AirLink 101 Super G wireless router.

I'm right on the verge of finally getting a Vonage account and want to be sure I'm making the BEST connection device choice possible. The reason I ask is that I want to continue getting Super G speed to my laptop and it appears (in the setup graphics) that I would need to connect the wireless router to the Motorola adapter and not the other way around. If I did that, I'd lose Super G wouldn't I?

Thanks for any help/suggestions you might make.

Several answers here. First, plugging the adapter into a port on your router should work fine *IF* the router supports QoS allowing you to set it to give priority to the Voip traffic. If it doesn't, you may have problems with your Voip calls.

Second, connecting the wireless adapter to the router has absolutely no effect on the Super G wireless connection to your laptop. The connection from adapter to router, or router to adapter, which ever way you set it up, is all wired of course, and doesn't affect the wireless link at all. It *may* slow down your overall internet connection speed (or may not) but your laptop --> router wireless connection will still run at the same speed.

Finally, IF your router supports QoS, I'd recommend hooking it up directly to the modem and then connecting the adapter to one of the router ports. You *may* have better internet performance this way, and will definitely have better security.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 4:33 pm    Post subject: Vonage Internet Performance Reply with quote Back to top

Just checked my performance with and without the Vonage/Linksys WRTP54g wireless router/phone adapter after I replaced my old D-Link DCM-200 cable modem with a Motorola Surfboard SB5120. Within small errors, the results were identical using:

http://www.vonage-forum.com/voip-speed-test.html

I got:
up 370 kbps
down 2.70 mbps
QOS 55%

Guess this is as good as I can get until Comcast does something to the cable feed ? Thanx.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 8:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Hey, I just bought myself the Linksys wireless G router with two phone ports, a dandy bluelight blinking speed daemon,

Though, I did notice the sever difference in web responsiveness, the Qos for the voice DOES slow web surfing.

More importantly, though, the G wireless IS a step up from the 11MB Dlink connection I was using, in terms of bandwidth throughput (when the connection is made).

One little tidbit to share: In the process of experimenting with using the old D-link router as the direct connection to the modem, and the Linksys one (vonage) as a secondary, I noticed that the PC activity light on my Motorola surfboard was blinking... this is not normal.

In other words I have reset the Linksys modem, but unpluging it, and now that PC activity light is NOT blinking...

Mayhap that in the process of activating the service for the first time, it's good to reset your Vonage router to make a new stable connection.

Web speeds are not as fast as they should be, but I'm not massively complaining, simply because I know that the Voip will always have precedence.

Greetz,

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 10:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

I've noticed in the voice chatrooms there is a lag. Anyone else experiencing this problem? Before installing the Vonage service I didn't have a problem but I'm noticing since hooking up with Vonage there are some lagging. Confused
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