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PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 10:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

energyx wrote:
PII/350 should be more than sufficient. Try to get 128MB of RAM... 64MB minimum.

I'm running on a PII450 w/128MB RAM and 6GB HD. If you need any help installing, feel free to PM me. Overall, m0n0wall made my connection more stable and my downloads much more even. Single file downloads easily max out my connection now. The packet queueing is a must for Voip, too.


I'll have to recall the old computer, it's collecting dust somewhere right now. I think it's got at least 128, but I don't remember. It's a fairly low-powered quiet little beast, though, especially once I strip out all the extras. May even look into an SD->IDE adapter to get rid of the noise/power/slowness of the hard drive. I have a 16MB SD card sitting around that came with my digicam, that I replaced with a 1GB card. That would make the old beast almost completely silent.

I also have an Athlon 1GHz with 512, but I want that to be a Linux box when I finally scrounge the parts I need for it, so using that for a firewall would be silly overkill. Like shooting mosquitoes with nuclear weapons. Smile

Thanks. I may very well take you up on your offer for assistance. I'm not completely a newbie to Linux/BSD, but I'm no expert. This stuff sounds pretty no-brainer to someone who knows a little about networking, though.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2005 10:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

I used the damnsmalllinux method on the m0n0 install info page. Piece of cake. Boot off the CD, wipe the drive, extract the image, reboot.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 2:38 pm    Post subject: Re: RTP300 QoS is laughable Reply with quote Back to top

Celeron wrote:
As someone would who supports Voip networks for a living I find the QoS offerings on the RTP300 to be completely unacceptable. The options are so incredibly lacking. There is no way of prioritizing voice traffic as it leaves the box. The manual actually describes QoS configuration that sounds like it might be worth something, but the screens it mentions, and shows in screenshots, are no where to be found on the RTP300.

I think I may end up buying a Cisco 871 so I can prioritize voice traffic outbound to the cable modem using low latency queueing.

There is no excuse for having absolutely no QoS on the RTP300. QoS is ESSENTIAL for Voip to be worth anything.


So you're saying you're surprised a $75 device doesn't have multitudes of granularity from a QoS perspective?

The 871 will work just fine for what you want, I use a 1711 for LLQ at home.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 3:44 pm    Post subject: Re: RTP300 QoS is laughable Reply with quote Back to top

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So you're saying you're surprised a $75 device doesn't have multitudes of granularity from a QoS perspective?


It doesn't even support Voip QoS and it's a Voip ROUTER! Multitudes? Hardly.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 3:52 pm    Post subject: Re: RTP300 QoS is laughable Reply with quote Back to top

energyx wrote:
EzCo wrote:


So you're saying you're surprised a $75 device doesn't have multitudes of granularity from a QoS perspective?


It doesn't even support Voip QoS and it's a Voip ROUTER! Multitudes? Hardly.


I guess my sarcasm didn't come through?
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I was looking into that or SmoothWall for firewalls/routers rather than getting a new router, since it's cheaper and the WRT54G, which I was looking at, looks like it's been pretty much ruined by the v5 hardware anyway.

The v5 isn't yet out at many retailers, so its still pretty easy to find v4 or earlier devices, you just have to be careful. A friend of mine just picked up a v4 this week at the local Frye's store, for $49.99 with a $15 rebate, for a net price of $35. Hard to beat that, I think. In addition, Linksys has apparently heard and taken note of the outcry over the crippled, non-Linux v5, and is introducing a "WRT54GL" (L for Linux, apparently) which is supposed to be on retailer's shelves soon. I have an old v2 here, and it works wonderfully with my RT31P2 behind it. QoS is great, and its sure a whole lot more "elegant" than a whole extra PC box sitting somewhere running m0n0wall.

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Many of the WRT54Gs here in Raleigh, NC are version 5s. I know this because I hunted for 2 days to find a version 3. All of the CircuitCitys and BestBuys in my area have exclusively version 5s.
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DallasFlier wrote:
The v5 isn't yet out at many retailers, so its still pretty easy to find v4 or earlier devices, you just have to be careful. A friend of mine just picked up a v4 this week at the local Frye's store, for $49.99 with a $15 rebate, for a net price of $35. Hard to beat that, I think. In addition, Linksys has apparently heard and taken note of the outcry over the crippled, non-Linux v5, and is introducing a "WRT54GL" (L for Linux, apparently) which is supposed to be on retailer's shelves soon. I have an old v2 here, and it works wonderfully with my RT31P2 behind it. QoS is great, and its sure a whole lot more "elegant" than a whole extra PC box sitting somewhere running m0n0wall.

-Gary-


I can see that, but my major issue is knowing. I'm looking at the GS, not because of the speedbooster but because I've been advised that the extra memory is a big plus. But they certainly ain't cheap, and I don't know a v4 from a v5 from a hole in the ground. They're all little blue boxes that would look sexy as hell with my old BEFCMU10 modem, but will they help?

The arguments for m0n0wall are:

1. Cheeeeeap. I just need a hub or switch.
2. Deeply configurable.
3. Did I mention cheap?

If m0n0wall doesn't end up fixing my problem, I have an extra switch. Big whoop. If the WRT54GS doesn't solve my problem, I'm out some dough. Though I suppose it could be converted into a pricey switch. Wink

And, of course, the advice from Vonage is to spend the same I would on a WRT54GS upgrading my DOCSIS 1.0 modem to something that doesn't use stone tablets to transmit packets. This from the company that USED to have firmware on the WRTP54G router that made it a Beautiful Thing (tm). Now I regret getting rid of my old NetGear 802.11b router, but "G For Free" sounded too good to be true - and you know what that means. Wink

I dunno, maybe soon I'll just go down to Staples or somewhere in a fit of pique and buy a new router and modem, and say to hell with it. LOL..
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 9:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

You can tell the version of the WRT54G by the serial number on the box:

CDF0 = WRT54G v1.0 / ADM6996L Chipset
CDF1 = WRT54G v1.0 / ADM6996L Chipset
CDF2 = WRT54G v1.1 / ADM6996L Chipset
CDF3 = WRT54G v1.1 / ADM6996L Chipset
CDF5 = WRT54G v2.0 / ADM6996L Chipset
CDF7 = WRT54G v2.2 / BCM5325EKQM Chipset
CDF8 = WRT54G v3.0 / BCM5325EKQM Chipset
CDF9 = WRT53G v3.1 / BCM5325EKQM Chipset
CDFA = WRT54G v4.0 / BCM5352E Chipset
CDFB = WRT54G v5.0 / BCM5352EKPB Chipset < the one to stay away from.
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Celeron wrote:
You can tell the version of the WRT54G by the serial number on the box:

CDF0 = WRT54G v1.0 / ADM6996L Chipset
CDF1 = WRT54G v1.0 / ADM6996L Chipset
CDF2 = WRT54G v1.1 / ADM6996L Chipset
CDF3 = WRT54G v1.1 / ADM6996L Chipset
CDF5 = WRT54G v2.0 / ADM6996L Chipset
CDF7 = WRT54G v2.2 / BCM5325EKQM Chipset
CDF8 = WRT54G v3.0 / BCM5325EKQM Chipset
CDF9 = WRT53G v3.1 / BCM5325EKQM Chipset
CDFA = WRT54G v4.0 / BCM5352E Chipset
CDFB = WRT54G v5.0 / BCM5352EKPB Chipset < the one to stay away from.


Thanks!

And all of them are cool but the CDFB series? ie. are there any advantages/disadvantages of a v4 over a v3, etc? Or after the aftermarket firmware gets in place, are they all the same?
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