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PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 4:27 pm    Post subject: SBC CEO is against VoIP using his lines Reply with quote Back to top

This story is making all the news today, where the greedy SBC CEO is not happy about Voip companies like Vonage using their lines for telephone service: http://www.businessweek.com/@@n34h*IUQu7KtOwgA/magazine/content/05_45/b3958092.htm

I think that Ars Technica's editorial on this puts it all into perspective: http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20051031-5498.html

The customers (that's us!) are ALREADY paying for this high speed Internet access! We are ALREADY funding these "pipelines". It shouldn't matter WHAT we do over the high speed lines that we're paying for -- whether it's games, downloading videos from iTunes, or using Vonage Voip service.

This CEO is just another greedy untalented bastard trying to milk more money out of people without providing any more services. I mean, look at them -- they already don't allow you to "unbundle" DSL from regular phone lines, and now they want to make money off of Voip companies as well?

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 5:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

We should charge them for all the ugly telephone poles across the country. Lines they've paid for thousands of times over in the last 80+ years of monopoly.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 5:52 pm    Post subject: Re: SBC CEO is against VoIP using his lines Reply with quote Back to top

scotty321 wrote:
This story is making all the news today, where the greedy SBC CEO is not happy about Voip companies like Vonage using their lines for telephone service


My god! I guess passing grade school English isn't a necessary prerequisite for becoming CEO of SBC. "Now what they would like to do is use my pipes free, but I ain't going to let them do that because we have spent this capital and we have to have a return on it."

"I ain't going to let them do that..." I'm sure glad that I TOTALLY dropped SBC here a while back for a combination of Comcast/Vonage. What a buffoon he sounds like.

scotty321 wrote:
The customers (that's us!) are ALREADY paying for this high speed Internet access! We are ALREADY funding these "pipelines". It shouldn't matter WHAT we do over the high speed lines that we're paying for -- whether it's games, downloading videos from iTunes, or using Vonage Voip service.Scott


This would be like my local electric company suddenly saying "Now what they would like to do is use my wires free, but I ain't going to let them do that because we have spent this capital and we have to have a return on it. Damn it, Sony, Dell, IBM and all the rest of those upstarts better start paying me fees for powering their TVs, stereos and computers!"

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 6:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Edward Whitacre has been whining about this for a long time. He whins about it everywhere. I wonder when everyone just gets sick of him. If I were a SBC DSL user I would email him to tell him to shut up. Can anything be more annoying than a whining millionare CEO?
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 10:04 am    Post subject: RE: SBC CEO is against VoIP using his Reply with quote Back to top

WE THE PEOPLE need to wake up and realize that the Big Companies do not grow with their money, they do it with your money. Where did the term OUT OF POCKET EXPENCE go.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 12:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Wow. This is basically MCI's claim that AT&T won't give them equal access from the 60's and 70's. Now SBC is in the AT&T shoes. This guy has some nerve. Way back AT&T maintained all long lines and local service. So one could see the merit of the claim of creamskinning off AT&T's operating costs by coming in with low long distance prices. Since there is no longer a national system under one name, how can Whitacre make this claim?
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 4:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

MrKenmore, you are right on target. It is even more serious to openly make that claim when SBC just bought AT&T. Doesn't that give them Callvantage? So the CEO either opened his mouth without thinking or he is bashing some of his own company.

He will also regret the other firestorm that will come, the government. As much as many of us want to avoid big government they have intervened a lot to open competition. Why would they stop now? SBC already carries competitor calls. He is openly inviting scrutiny of the FCC and even the FTC. I don't know if it is worth the gamble because everyone gets hit. Is he competing with Sprint for the title of the company who adds new taxation to new technology. I hope his board has a big roll of tape to seal his mouth because this guy is a loose cannon.

The point he is probably trying to make is Voip, including Vonage, is able to cut costs because of technological differences. Now Vonage and others have tied a new technology to an old system which will ease transisition. Don't forget these telcos have been soaking up extra dollars that were supposed to pay for the infrastructure that has been in place for some time. Rather than drop our costs they had intended to keep milking the cash cow. But, competition among each other began to cut into the cow starting with things like MCI's Neighborhood program. Remember that?

Unfortunately I think the cow is targeted for road kill. Even if Voip evolves into something else, which could even be a hybrid with cell technology I believe in my signature. The world is changing. The days of thousands of pounds of copper on poles is coming to an end. If you took SBC's position we would still have gas lighting or oil lamps (just an analogy).

Bottom line, he is about to get a lot of new friends in the sandbox. I would suggest he learns to get along.

Will Vonage survive? When the original MCI and Sprint sprung up they had to "pipe" their information through AT&T. Then they transitioned. Sprint still shouts their pin dropping for their fiber system. Vonage will survive in some form or fashion. My bet is that it will be independent a little longer because the growth rate is still high. It is the investers who must predict the peak for when it is best to get off the ride. I'm not sure we're near Vonage's peak.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 6:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Well the FCC approved his merger with AT&T today, so who knows- maybe he "ain't gonna" be CEO for long.
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