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PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 11:54 pm    Post subject: which router / ata combo for best performance for voip Reply with quote Back to top

I have been reading this forum for a few days, and an wondering which wireless router/ata combo would be the best as far as Voip quality is concerned.

I am having some phone quality issues (outbound)

1) stick with this wrtp54g router/ata combo. Good price after rebates, hopefully bugs will get ironed out as firmwares get better.

2) try speedbooster router (I have read good things about this one, actually just bought one today to see if it's better , have not yet tried it yet, just reading about the different hardware versions now (looks like this v.2, it looks like v 3 may be a bit better, not sure about v4 yet)

2a) with the speedbooster i can use my old cisco 186 ata, or get the pap2??? not sure about this, Vonage says I may not be able to use the 186 (service with that is with earthlink, which is really Vonage, but contract says earthlink)

3) try something else - I have the att g router, but when I tried it with the 186, it was just terrible, not even usable.

I don't expect to do much downloading or uploading especially when using the phone, I just want decent quality all the time when the computer is off, and want it to be reliable.

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Any thoughts?
Here is a copy of my latest Voip test. This one looks good, a bit better than usual. Most of the time I have a bit of packet loss on the sending side.

But I also just switched phones.
I had a panasonic 2.4 ghz phone, replaced it with panasonic 5.8 fhss phone. I have seen the posts about the pany phones, but I like the quality, and wanted to see how this one worked.


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Media Quality
MOS
4.4 / 5.0
(Best with G.711 is 4.4)


Degradation Sources
Codec 0.58 100.0%
Latency 0.00 0.0%
Packet Discards 0.00 0.0%
Packet Loss 0.00 0.0%
Codec G.711 (PCM at 64kbps,
20ms RTP payload,
80kbps IP BW)
Round-Trip
Latency 127 ms
Packet Discards 0.0%
Packet Loss 0.0%
Loss Periods
Min: 0 ms
Avg: 0 ms
Max: 0 ms
No Loss
Jitter
Min: 0 ms
Avg: 6 ms
Max: 17 ms
Signaling Quality
Post-Dial Delay 62 ms
Call Setup Time 62 ms
Media Delay 171 ms

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4.4 / 5.0
(Best with G.711 is 4.4)


Degradation Sources
Codec 0.58 100.0%
Latency 0.00 0.0%
Packet Discards 0.00 0.0%
Packet Loss 0.00 0.0%
Codec G.711 (PCM at 64kbps,
20ms RTP payload,
80kbps IP BW)
Round-Trip
Latency 127 ms
Packet Discards 0.0%
Packet Loss 0.0%
Loss Periods
Min: 0 ms
Avg: 0 ms
Max: 0 ms
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Jitter
Min: 4 ms
Avg: 8 ms
Max: 27 ms
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Post-Pickup Delay 84 ms
Call Setup Time 84 ms
Media Delay 116 ms
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 24, 2005 9:45 pm    Post subject: best hardware configuration for voice revisited. Reply with quote Back to top

1. Your location
orange city, fla
2. Your ISP name and type (cable, DSL, wireless etc)
earthlink - cable .
3. Upload and download speeds
5mb down, and 384k up
4. Modem make and model
now I have the toshiba pcx 2500 modem,
5. Type of Vonage adapter used ie RT31P2 or PAP2
wrtp54g router/ata.
6. Setup of Network ie Modem---->Vonage Adapter-->PC
modem - Vonage adapter - pc
7. Issue you are experiencing ie dropped calls, choppy audio etc
some trouble with voice quality on outgoing
8. DETAILED results from www.testyourvoip.com with a test call to Boston.
done

I am replying to myself with these details in hopes someone else has gone through the trouble of switching hardware to see what works the best. It's getting expensive.

I concurently have the earthlink unlimited voice with the cisco 186 with the befsr41 router.

I was using a panasonic 2.4ghz phone, and replaced it with a panasonic 5.8ghz fhss phone. This has been nicer.

I also bought the linksys wrt54gs v3 router (but have not hooked it up yet, untill I get some more feedback , and some more time to see how my connection sounds.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 24, 2005 10:52 pm    Post subject: Feedback on my setup... Reply with quote Back to top

I'm using the PAP2 phone adapter with great success. My config is:

Time Warner RR ISP (4.5M Up / 384K Down) ->
Motorola Surfboard SB4100 Cable Modem ->
Linksys WRT54G v4 ->
Linksys PAP2

I just recently replaced a Netgear WGR614 v4 with the LinkSys to be able to add QOS, but I had no performance problems with the Netgear either.

The PAP2 seems to work extremely well - it was truly plug and play for me. Call quality (after 1,100 minutes in about 2 weeks) has been rock solid wit none of the problems others have had and posted about on this forum. I like the idea of keeping the router and phone adapter as seperate components - easier to isolate where a problem might be.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 24, 2005 11:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

I started out with a WRT54GSv3 and couldn't flash it with the free alternative firmware freeman so I went and exchanged it for a WRT54Gv2, loaded freeman 1.0.4 on it, configured QoS and it works great!

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2005 7:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

I was researching the version types, and it seems like there was some good changes from v 2.1 to v3, but v3 to v4 dropped the ram, and flash, so I was hoping that v3 was the one to get, and if the 3rd party firmwares get updated to v3, thats even better.
I have yet to even try it though, I have been watching the quality of my present setup with the new phone now.

It's too bad, while I have been doing this testting, I am paying for all this eq., and 2 services . Oh well, hopefully when it's all done, the quality is good.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 02, 2005 9:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

I run a Cisco network at my house. I have a Cisco 831 Router attached to my ADSL2+ 5Mb/1Mb Internet connection. From there, I have a Cisco Catalyst 2950T switch that my Linksys RTP300 adapter is plugged into. I have a QoS policy setup on my Cisco router that prioritizes traffic to and from the phone adapter based upon its MAC address.
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