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PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 2:41 pm    Post subject: Daisy Chain WRTG54 behind RTP300 - Frustration Reply with quote Back to top

Hello. I am a new Vonage user and am happy to say that I am not having any problem with Voip. I am having networking difficulty with the Linksys RTP300 however.

I really wish that my very first post here was not a plea for assistance, but here goes:

I have been running a small home network for about eight years now and have a fair amount of experience with setup, troubleshooting, etc. However this is the first time I have attempted to daisy chain two routers, and despite spending a lot of time reading up and experimenting, I am getting nowhere with this setup. For reasons related to the layout of my house and networked devices I need to have the RTP300 first in line and the WRTG54 daisy chained behind it. I know I could use a WAP/switch instead of the WRTG54, but I already have the router on hand, and I understand that it should be able to accomplish the same thing.

Here is essentially what I have done, based on this Linksys article and other items I've read, all of which where consistent with this approach:

WRTG54 setup
--Disabled the firewall and DHCP server.
--Changed local IP to 192.168.15.254 (The RTP300's IP is unchanged at 192.168.15.1, and DHCP range is 192.168.15.100-149.)
--Set subnet at 255.255.255.0 (same as the RTP300)

Connection
--RTP300 LAN 1 to WRTG54 WAN
--RTP300 LAN 2, 3, 4 to PCs, etc.
--WRTG54 LAN 1 to PC for testing

Expected Result
--RTP300 should recognize WRTG54 at 192.168.15.254
--WRTG54 should behave as a switch
--RTP300 DHCP server should assign an IP to PC connected to WRTG54
--PC on WRTG54 should have access to WRT300 LAN and internet

Actual Result

--RTP300 is "recognizing" the WRTG54 as "unkown" and not recognizing it's assigned IP
--RTP300 DHCP server is assigning the WRTG54 an IP dynamically (192.168.15.100)
--RTP300 DHCP server is not assigning an IP to the PC attached to the WRTG54
--No network connectivity for PC on the WRTG54.

That's the story. I have also done a lot of other trial and error work, none of which has helped. I have searched here and elsewhere and not been able to find any reports of people using the RTP300 at the head of a daisy chain like this. Am I missing something or Is there any reason that this will not work?

I'd appreciate any assistance.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 3:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Hook the RTP300 LAN 1 to WRTG54 LAN 2 Instead of WAN
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 3:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

HunterMcD wrote:
Hook the RTP300 LAN 1 to WRTG54 LAN 2 Instead of WAN


Already tried that. Didn't work. Thanks though.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 3:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

You could try a third party firmware for the wrt54g. DD-WRT seems to be able to make the wan port a "lan" port by doing the directions here http://wrt-wiki.bsr-clan.de/index.php?title=WAN_Port
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 4:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

optiman wrote:
HunterMcD wrote:
Hook the RTP300 LAN 1 to WRTG54 LAN 2 Instead of WAN


Already tried that. Didn't work. Thanks though.


HunterMcD's recommendation (and the article that you link to) should work, while the configuration that you describe in your first post won't provide WAP/switch functionality because you are using the WAN (and not LAN) port of the WRT54G.

Basically, to use the WRT54G as a WAP/switch, you need to:

  • Make sure the WRT54G's DHCP server is disabled
  • Make sure the WRT54G's LAN ip address is set to 192.168.15.254 with a subnet mask of 255.255.255.0.
  • Connect a LAN port of the RTP300 to a LAN (and _not_ WAN) port of the WRT54G.


FWIW, I am using a variant of this configuration with my WRT54GS to use it as a WAP.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 4:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

That was how I had hooked a BEFW11S4 to my works LAN so we could have wireless, so I though it should work the same way. I was supprised when he said he had already tried that and it didn't work. My current setup for Vonage is my WRT54G (DD-WRT Firmware V.23) Hooked to my cable modem, and the RTP300 Hooked to the WRT54G.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 10:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

optiman wrote:
HunterMcD wrote:
Hook the RTP300 LAN 1 to WRTG54 LAN 2 Instead of WAN


Already tried that. Didn't work. Thanks though.


Well. Embarassed I tried it again and it does work. Hard to say why it did not when tried it earlier. I must have had something else set up differently. It shoudn't matter which LAN port on the WRT I connect that RTP to should it?

Anyway thanks again.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 10:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

It doesn't matter which LAN on both devices are hooked to one another, but if you would like to use the wan port for it, the newest DD-WRT firmware has the ability to make the WAN a LAN. I checked mine last night after I upgraded to the latest beta
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 10:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

polarisdb wrote:
HunterMcD wrote:
Hook the RTP300 LAN 1 to WRTG54 LAN 2 Instead of WAN

HunterMcD's recommendation (and the article that you link to) should work, while the configuration that you describe in your first post won't provide WAP/switch functionality because you are using the WAN (and not LAN) port of the WRT54G.


Thanks for the added pursuasion Polaris. Too bad the Linksys article that I referenced earlier stated "plug..into..the Uplink port". It only states to plug into a "regular port...if your wireless router does not have an uplink port". That line cost me a whole lot of grief!
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 10:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

HunterMcD wrote:
It doesn't matter which LAN on both devices are hooked to one another, but if you would like to use the wan port for it, the newest DD-WRT firmware has the ability to make the WAN a LAN. I checked mine last night after I upgraded to the latest beta


...Posting over each other... Thanks. I'll check it out. Never know when I might need to free up a port. Smile

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