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PostPosted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 11:16 am    Post subject: Any QoS experts here? Reply with quote Back to top

I'm more than happy with my Cisco PIX 501 sitting right after my cable modem, and things work perfectly fine on the network, with 2 access points, 6 other IP devices, and the RTP300 all hanging off a switch on off the inside interface. So I really don't want to muck it all up by changing the order of devices and put the RTP300 between the cable modem and firewall, or change routing devices.

The PIX 501 does not have support for QoS. However, I found that this switch from DLink does...
http://www.dlink.com/products/?pid=449&sec=0

My question:
If I have a QoS capable switch (albeit not a managed one), would this be sufficient to support voice priority for the RTP300, or does the router itself have to understand QoS and be able to traffic shape for it to "work"?
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 11:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Actually this may be all I need...
http://www.dlink.com/products/?sec=2&pid=426

Interesting little device.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 12:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Well, answered my own question.

Looks like this is what I need...
http://www.tomsnetworking.com/Reviews-210-ProdID-HBB1.php

The Tom's Hardware review is pretty favorable... although the device doesn't do true 802.1p QoS, it does appear to provide real-time traffic shaping -- certainly enough to get your calls through regardless of network activity.

Placed my order, so I should have it tomorrow. PC Connection has a $20 rebate, making it a no-brainer if you don't have a QoS capable router.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 1:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

When you have Cisco gear, you probably are the expert. Smile

It'll be cool when the QoS black box functionality is eventually built into home routers. It is certainly much easier to deal with than the Linksys 3rd party firmwares...

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2005 7:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

I heard that Pix OS 7.0 will add more routing features for the Pix firewalls - more notibly QoS.

I have yet to work with this version - however, this release is unsupported on the 501 and 506 currently.

I had the same issue with my 501. My solution was purchasing a load balanced router and have two ISP connections - have high bandwidth traffic out one port, and the remaining essential services utilizing its own pipe on another WAN interface.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2005 12:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

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Well, answered my own question.

Looks like this is what I need...
http://www.tomsnetworking.com/Reviews-210-ProdID-HBB1.php
is but I think I'd stick with a WRT54G/S with third party firmware. It's tried and proven and seems to be the best thing out there for the home consumer to date.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2005 2:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

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I am not sure how much
Quote:
Well, answered my own question.

Looks like this is what I need...
http://www.tomsnetworking.com/Reviews-210-ProdID-HBB1.php
is but I think I'd stick with a WRT54G/S with third party firmware. It's tried and proven and seems to be the best thing out there for the home consumer to date.

$50 after rebate.

Changing routers is not an option for me... in my installation, the PIX 501 is doing a lot stuff for me beyond DHCP and basic routing, so any QoS needs to be delegated to something else, because the PIX stays. I'll probably upgrade to a larger PIX running 7.0 if i decide I want fully qualified QoS, but if I go that route, I will upgrade to a QoS switch as well.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2005 3:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

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Well, answered my own question.

Looks like this is what I need...
http://www.tomsnetworking.com/Reviews-210-ProdID-HBB1.php
is but I think I'd stick with a WRT54G/S with third party firmware. It's tried and proven and seems to be the best thing out there for the home consumer to date.


I love the 3rd party firmwares too, but a plug and play QoS black box is more of what the average home consumer needs. Even a competent computer user can have problems setting QoS up: link. I can only imagine the problems that someone like my computer illiterate MIL would have. Wink

alee wrote:

Changing routers is not an option for me... in my installation, the PIX 501 is doing a lot stuff for me beyond DHCP and basic routing, so any QoS needs to be delegated to something else, because the PIX stays. I'll probably upgrade to a larger PIX running 7.0 if i decide I want fully qualified QoS, but if I go that route, I will upgrade to a QoS switch as well.


I don't blame you for wanting to keep the Cisco gear, but the Sveasoft firmware allows a supported router to function as a managed QoS switch. Very Happy

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2005 5:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

The Hawking HBB-1 arrived and I just dropped it on the network. On an 8mbps down/512kbps up cable modem, uploading large files to a remote server, my voice traffic appears to be essentially unaffected, delivering the drop-in packet shaping I needed. For those not interested in a new router, this appears to deliver everything necessary to maintain voice quality even when the net traffic is busy.
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