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PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 3:20 pm    Post subject: Alchemy with bittorrent uploading :( Reply with quote Back to top

So far no good... got the new linksys wrt54g setup with the Alchemy firmware... I have 3 meg cable service.
I set the the upload to 230 download to 3000 90%
port wan
Sip premium
mac address premium
ports at standard and then changed the Voip port to premium everything else bulk..
Very very bad stutter when running bittorrent uploading at 20 kbs...
I was hoping when I picked up the phone I would see that upload drop, but it did not. Unless there are more tweaks my next step was to try freeman...
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 3:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

That sounds somewhat similar to my setup, which worked like a champ. As long as your cable modem is attached to the WAN port of the WRT, Alchemy or Talisman/Freeman should work just fine with the settings you describe.

Did you try rebooting the WRT and re-verifying your QoS settings? Other than that, is there anything unusual about your configuration like assigning the WAN port to the LAN bridge?

What does the output from the following commands look like?

Code:

iptables -t mangle -nvL
tc -s class show dev imq0
tc -s qdisc show dev imq0


Also, have you tried the "ping test" described here: HowTo: Vonage and QoS with Sveasoft Alchemy Firmware

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 4:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

isn't there only one port to plug into on the WRT..
When you reboot the router do you just unplug it ?
nothing unusual that I know of...

With you settings do you run bittorrent with at least a 20 kbs upload?

Maybe it's freeman time, and if that doesn't work maybe it's just time to stick with my verizon phone ??
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 5:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

I've used the configuration I linked to above with (2) 20+kbps torrents running simultaneously. I would stick with Alchemy until you understand why it isn't working. Just switching to Talisman may not change anything.

The WRT's have 5 ports, one WAN and four LAN. The QoS configuration that you describe won't do squat unless your cable modem is connected to the WAN port of the WRT and your PC's and Vonage adapter are connected to its LAN ports.

You can reboot the WRT by unplugging it, logging into it with ssh or telnet and executing "reboot", or by executing "reboot" from the Administration->Diagnostic menus.

Try running "iptables -t mangle -nvL" on the WRT (via ssh or the Diagnostic menu) to see if the rules you setup are there. I would then execute "tc -s class show dev imq0" to see if you have had any activity for Premium traffic.

Also, a quick way to see if QoS is doing anything is to try setting Uplink and Dnlink to very low numbers and run an ftp test to see if it is actually throttling your bandwidth.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 6:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

On my test, I was running 2 computers, each running BitTorrent full-throttle. I also had an FTP server running with 5 users connected to it. QoS managed totally by the WRT54GS w/Alchemy. On the test, I was using DHCP reservation, then doing QoS by IP. Connection was a 3M/1M DSL connection. I let the computers run for about 24 hrs continuously and still had no problem with dropouts, choppy audio, etc. That said, the DSL connection itself is absolutely solid and I keep my QoS settings very aggressively set.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 6:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

my wiring is correct....

Alot of chinese in your last post, but I did run the test...

I'm not sure what to do next... thanks

Chain PREROUTING (policy ACCEPT 425 packets, 42238 bytes)
pkts bytes target prot opt in out source destination
48 6260 IMQ all -- vlan1 * 0.0.0.0/0 0.0.0.0/0 IMQ: todev 0
48 6260 SVQOS_IN all -- vlan1 * 0.0.0.0/0 0.0.0.0/0
0 0 MARK all -- * * 0.0.0.0/0 0.0.0.0/0 MAC 00:14:BF:0B:AC:FC MARK set 0xa
372 35817 CONNMARK all -- * * 0.0.0.0/0 0.0.0.0/0 CONNMARK save
Chain INPUT (policy ACCEPT 496 packets, 68110 bytes)
pkts bytes target prot opt in out source destination
Chain FORWARD (policy ACCEPT 130 packets, 13496 bytes)
pkts bytes target prot opt in out source destination
Chain OUTPUT (policy ACCEPT 425 packets, 207K bytes)
pkts bytes target prot opt in out source destination
Chain POSTROUTING (policy ACCEPT 766 packets, 283K bytes)
pkts bytes target prot opt in out source destination
11 1584 SVQOS_OUT all -- * vlan1 0.0.0.0/0 0.0.0.0/0
Chain SVQOS_IN (1 references)
pkts bytes target prot opt in out source destination
48 6260 CONNMARK all -- * * 0.0.0.0/0 0.0.0.0/0 CONNMARK restore
0 0 RETURN all -- * * 0.0.0.0/0 0.0.0.0/0 MARK match !0x0
48 6260 CONNMARK all -- * * 0.0.0.0/0 0.0.0.0/0 CONNMARK save
48 6260 RETURN all -- * * 0.0.0.0/0 0.0.0.0/0
Chain SVQOS_OUT (1 references)
pkts bytes target prot opt in out source destination
11 1584 CONNMARK all -- * * 0.0.0.0/0 0.0.0.0/0 CONNMARK restore
0 0 RETURN all -- * * 0.0.0.0/0 0.0.0.0/0 MARK match !0x0
11 1584 CONNMARK all -- * * 0.0.0.0/0 0.0.0.0/0 CONNMARK save
11 1584 RETURN all -- * * 0.0.0.0/0 0.0.0.0/0
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 7:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

joeldwolf wrote:

0 0 MARK all -- * * 0.0.0.0/0 0.0.0.0/0 MAC 00:14:BF:0B:AC:FC MARK set 0xa


The formatting stinks when this is run through the GUI, but it looks like the MAC address rule is there. Just to verify, is 00:14:BF:0B:AC:FC the WAN MAC address of your Vonage adapter?

Try running this command to see if you have any Premium (1:10) traffic (look for number of bytes sent)::

tc -s class show dev imq0

The output should look something like this:

Quote:

~ # tc -s class show dev imq0
class htb 1:1 root rate 1340Kbit ceil 1340Kbit burst 6Kb cburst 3314b
Sent 1911065 bytes 11597 pkts (dropped 0, overlimits 0)
rate 1411bps 12pps
lended: 6 borrowed: 0 giants: 0
tokens: 27357 ctokens: 13846

class htb 1:10 parent 1:1 leaf 10: prio 1 rate 1005Kbit ceil 1340Kbit burst 6Kb cburst 3314b
Sent 1816086 bytes 10859 pkts (dropped 0, overlimits 0)
<-- This is Premium traffic
rate 1365bps 11pps
lended: 10859 borrowed: 0 giants: 0
tokens: 36477 ctokens: 13846

class htb 1:20 parent 1:1 leaf 20: prio 2 rate 201Kbit ceil 1340Kbit burst 6Kb cburst 3314b
Sent 0 bytes 0 pkts (dropped 0, overlimits 0)
lended: 0 borrowed: 0 giants: 0
tokens: 195629 ctokens: 15832

class htb 1:30 parent 1:1 leaf 30: prio 3 rate 134Kbit ceil 1340Kbit burst 6Kb cburst 3314b
Sent 94979 bytes 738 pkts (dropped 0, overlimits 0)
<-- This is Standard traffic
rate 42bps
lended: 732 borrowed: 6 giants: 0
tokens: 290770 ctokens: 15565

class htb 1:40 parent 1:1 leaf 40: prio 4 rate 1Kbit ceil 1340Kbit burst 6Kb cburst 3314b
Sent 0 bytes 0 pkts (dropped 0, overlimits 0)
lended: 0 borrowed: 0 giants: 0
tokens: 39321600 ctokens: 15832

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 7:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

class htb 1:1 root rate 3000Kbit ceil 3000Kbit burst 6Kb cburst 5439b
Sent 5302739 bytes 18768 pkts (dropped 0, overlimits 0)
rate 5419bps 33pps
lended: 1280 borrowed: 0 giants: 0
tokens: 12767 ctokens: 11264
class htb 1:10 parent 1:1 leaf 10: prio 1 rate 2250Kbit ceil 3000Kbit burst 6Kb cburst 5439b
Sent 11644 bytes 291 pkts (dropped 0, overlimits 0)
lended: 291 borrowed: 0 giants: 0
tokens: 17362 ctokens: 11519
class htb 1:20 parent 1:1 leaf 20: prio 2 rate 450Kbit ceil 3000Kbit burst 6Kb cburst 5439b
Sent 0 bytes 0 pkts (dropped 0, overlimits 0)
lended: 0 borrowed: 0 giants: 0
tokens: 87380 ctokens: 11604
class htb 1:30 parent 1:1 leaf 30: prio 3 rate 300Kbit ceil 3000Kbit burst 6Kb cburst 5439b
Sent 5291095 bytes 18477 pkts (dropped 0, overlimits 0)
rate 5425bps 34pps
lended: 17197 borrowed: 1280 giants: 0
tokens: 127660 ctokens: 11264
class htb 1:40 parent 1:1 leaf 40: prio 4 rate 1Kbit ceil 3000Kbit burst 6Kb cburst 5439b
Sent 0 bytes 0 pkts (dropped 0, overlimits 0)
lended: 0 borrowed: 0 giants: 0
tokens: 39321600 ctokens: 11604
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 7:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

those test I ran without bitorrent running
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 8:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Did you make a phone call when you did this test? Something doesn't look right, you have less than 1% premium traffic. Almost everything is Standard.

I would go to your Vonage adapter and verify the MAC address on the sticker is 00:14:BF:0B:AC:FC. If this isn't working for you, you can try ip address-based QoS.

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