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PostPosted: Fri Sep 02, 2005 9:37 am    Post subject: Network w/Vonage Linksys Router & Dell Wireless Router Reply with quote Back to top

I currently have a network setup with a wired router. The router was provided by Vonage (Linksys RTP31P2) when I signed up with their phone service. Connected to the router are my PC and my Xbox.

Due to a new job my wife is getting, I need to setup a wireless network for the laptop they are providing her. They gave us a Dell wireless router and a Dell wireless network card for her laptop.

My problem is that since I need my Linksys router to get my phone service, (since it has the phone jacks on it that I plug my phone into) how should I set this network up. I will need both the Linksys router and Dell wireless router connected to the network.

My idea was to have my main internet connection going into the Linksys router and then have one of my connections coming off the Linksys router and go into the wireless router. I thought this would be best because then the main thrust of my internet connection will be going into the phone adapter router allowing my phone service to be more stable.

Will this work? Or is there a better way to do this?

Thanks for the help!
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 02, 2005 9:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

that's fine. there are instructions right at vonage.com too.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 02, 2005 10:15 am    Post subject: Re: Network w/Vonage Linksys Router & Dell Wireless Rout Reply with quote Back to top

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My idea was to have my main internet connection going into the Linksys router and then have one of my connections coming off the Linksys router and go into the wireless router.


Yep, you can just use the Dell router as a Wireless Access Point (WAP).

Just connect one of the LAN ports on the RTP31P2 to one of the LAN (and _not_ WAN) ports on the Dell router. This will avoid double NAT, which could cause problems if your wife will be using a VPN to connect to work from the wireless laptop.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 02, 2005 10:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

she will be connecting to a VPN so thanks for the heads up. is there anything else i should know? it almost seems too simple.
also, if i do that, does it mean i can only use wireless connection to connect to the router and i can't use the ethernet points to connect any other devices?
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 02, 2005 10:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

You should be in good shape as long as you disable the Dell's DHCP server and its LAN ip address is the LAN range used by the RTP31P2.

That should allow you to connect to either router via any PC on the LAN as well as plug PC's into the LAN ports of the Dell router or the RTP31P2.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 02, 2005 5:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

i noticed on the Dell wireless router it says "not to connect the LAN connectors to a network with an existing DHCP server. Doing so may cause the network to malfunction, cause network downtime and prevent other users from gaining access." so now what would be the best option? maybe get rid of the Linksys router, use the Dell as my standard router and purchase a Vonage phone adapter ?
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 02, 2005 6:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

I have the RTP300 router/adapter. One installation option given in the manual is to just plug its WAN port into a port on an existing router. It specifically indicates that you might want to do this if the existing router is needed for its wireless capability. It also indicates that if you do this you should not plug any PCs into the RTP300 ports; the 300 then serves only as the phone adapter.

I should think that you can do the same with the Dell wireless and the
Vonage supplied router/adapter that you have.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 02, 2005 7:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

byoung210 wrote:
i noticed on the Dell wireless router it says "not to connect the LAN connectors to a network with an existing DHCP server. Doing so may cause the network to malfunction, cause network downtime and prevent other users from gaining access." so now what would be the best option? maybe get rid of the Linksys router, use the Dell as my standard router and purchase a Vonage phone adapter ?


Dell is probably just trying to cut down on tech support calls. Smile

The original configuration that you proposed should be fine if you:

  1. Configure the Dell router to have a LAN ip address is the LAN range used by the RTP31P2
  2. Disable the DHCP server on the Dell router
  3. Connect one of the LAN ports on the RTP31P2 to one of the LAN (and _not_ WAN) ports on the Dell router

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 03, 2005 7:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

thanks for the help. i looked at Dell's website and they had the same info. i followed the instructions and everything is working so far on the wired end of my network. once my wife gets her laptop, i'll see how it works on the wireless end. i renamed the wireless network on the Dell router. was that necessary? i did it for security reasons so that the wireless network wasn't just named 'wireless' as the default.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 03, 2005 10:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

My configuration is different from what polarisdb suggests. I never recommend turning off DHCP since it can cause more difficulty later on if you router gets used in a different environment.

> 3. Connect one of the LAN ports on the RTP31P2 to one of the LAN (and _not_ WAN) ports on the Dell router

Taking a regular RJ45 cable, put one end into port 1,2,3,or 4 of the LinkSys. The other end goes in to the Dell uplink port (or WAN port).

> 1. Configure the Dell router to have a LAN ip address is the LAN range used by the RTP31P2
> 2. Disable the DHCP server on the Dell router

Leave DHCP enabled for all routers. The Dell router will automatically get its IP details from the LinkSys router. For example, Dell router will become 192.168.15.100 with gateway and DNS as 192.168.15.1. The Dell router will in turn give IP details wireless laptop. Some recommend using the LinkSys as a phone adapter only, so all your wired connections should be plugged in to the Dell Router.
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