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PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2005 9:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Again, well said Galion....Good to have you here on the forum.
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My Vonage adapter goes anywhere and everywhere my laptop goes. So, it's been everywhere from libraries to hotels to sports arenas. I actually would PREFER NOT TO HAVE 911 on this line, as it's registered to my home address, which often isn't the address I'm at. With me only being at one location for a couple of hours at a time, it doesn't make sense for me to put a new address in every time. With the way Voip and the internet works, there's no practical way for this info to be updated automatically every time I change location either. My travel phone has the phone # with area code stuck on it, which is enough to let most people know that it's a foriegn area code line and not to expect any local help on it.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 05, 2005 6:50 am    Post subject: E11 Reply with quote Back to top

Hello All,

I am new on this board. This is all very interesting reading. I believe most of the Vonage users are not as mobile as VonageTPA. As the matter of fact, I think most of the Vonage users are "Still". So while no 911 services is fine for VonageTPA, it is a very important aspect for consumers to have this service. And from the business stand point, I believe it is beneficial for Vonage to add this service as soon as possible. I believe Vonage can grow into a giant if this issue is squared away. I have many friends love the features and rate I have with Vonage. But when they heard the 911 thing, they will not do it.

With all that said, it is a new technology and I agree with a prior poster said that I don't think Vonage is able to roll it all out by the end of November. It is not however due to lack of efforts. I think the business environment is extremely complicated in the telecom industry and especially Voip industry. In my area, SBC is the dominant phone service provider. I use RoadRunner from Time Warner Cable. I used to have Digital Phone service with Time Warner Cable. In a nut shell Digital Phone is same as Vonage, but Time Warner has its own "dedicated line" if you will rather than Vonage which uses public. Anyway, Digital Phone was $40.00 per month, so I decided to switch to Vonage. It took me 3 1/2 month to have my number transferred. This is the kind of resistance Vonage or any telecom provider will get for that matter.

I do not know when E911 will arrive in my area. In the mean time, I taped all the important numbers (Village Police Department and so on) on the back of my phone.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 05, 2005 9:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

I would surely expect most of the regional children of AT&T and all their associates would most likely do anything legal to slow the competition. What is their motovation to help bring death to their investment in tons of copper? Their only choice is to try and get in the game. That is why Verizon has VoiceWing and AT&T (now SBC) has CallVantage. They see the future. I had AT&T long distance for years. In the early days of the internet I had AT&T Worldnet. And to give AT&T some credit they saw this coming. They bought a cable company. They tried to get into the internet business. They tried to keep their original business working. In the end Ma Bell got took over by one of its children. They now face the same problem.

With all the government regulation and years of regional monopoly the government assured these companies had their copper investment paid for long ago. But, now the free ride ends. Competition is knocking or rather roaring. Their choices are to drag their feet or jump in the pool.

To get any type of intergrated service working will require the cooperation of all involved. I foresee a lot of battles similar to others that modern media has created (such as the MP3 or digital video craze). So, I see more than a technology problem to overcome.

As to 911, if we were willing to give up some privacy it would be easy to find a phone adapter that is dialing 911 with companies working together. I could easily see using an integrated GPS to digitally associate your adapter to a 911 center. You could even give the subscriber the choice of using the GPS or not for privacy purposes. So I believe the technology is there and Voip will rise.

My apologies to those who have stock in the companies based on the tons of copper and that have not attempted to invest. If those companies wait and do not have the investment to buy one of the innovators (which is how most big companies such as Microsoft work now), then they must be happy with little or no growth. I am not a believer in big government, but it looks like it will take the government shoving it down some throats, but not all. That is why some companies are cooperating with Vonage. They see it coming.

If you avoid Vonage because they don't have E911 then you are avoiding Voip altogether. From what I found they are one of the few who have publicly announced they are up to the challenge and willing to set agressive goals. Most of the "followers" say they are not willing to spend any time on 911. They will wait and see. Maybe it will pay off for them or maybe not.

One last thought. How many times have you dialed 911 from any phone? I have a few times. When I lived in metro Atlanta it actually worked 50% of the time. Maybe its better now (I left 2 years ago). When I lived in North Carolina the county 911 center got hit by lightning MULTIPLE times and they had to route 911 calls to a regional center. Don't be your life on 911. Have a back-up plan.

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Welcome Libbyloo to the forums...
What you have done is the best thing for now. It will be here, it just takes time. Let the family know what to do, go through it a few times so there is ZERO confusion on the numbers to call.
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