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PostPosted: Sat Jul 23, 2005 12:12 am    Post subject: Vonage into the rest of my house Reply with quote Back to top

Greetings!

I am up and running with Vonage (and am quite happy about it)! I've done some research regarding what is required for the rest of the phone jacks in my house to carry the Vonage signal. The two solutions I've found are below:
1. Disconnect Qwest installed phone jack (that I assume charges the rest of the phone jacks in the house). Plug the phone cord coming from the Vonage router into the Network box.
2. Disconnect the wires that connect the house's phone system to Qwest's system.

I'd prefer to go with option 2, however, I'd like some input as to what I should specifically do in the second case. Therefore, please see the following 2 photos and let me know which wires need to be disconnected.

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http://home.comcast.net/~captdave311/100_0795.jpg

Thanks in advance for the help!
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 23, 2005 1:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

That looks similar to my box. You'll notice that the jacks are labeled "TEST JACK", meaning you can plug a phone into the jack to see if your line is working.

That means that the jack runs to the telco, and the cable that plugs into it runs to your house. Otherwise, it'd be a pretty pointless test jack. That also means that you can't run a separate wire out to the box and plug it into the jack, because that would connect the Vonage box to the telco (!)

So anyway, you should be able to just unplug the cable at the box, and connect the Vonage device to an existing jack inside your house.

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Edit: before you do that, check to make sure that your house lines go dead when you unplug the cable from the jack. Also, wrap the end in electrical tape so it won't be accidentally reinserted by someone.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 23, 2005 10:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Hi Paul,

Thanks once again for your reply! There's 2 sets of wires attached to the Jack 1 connection; a red and green and a blue and blue/white. Should I just disconnect all wires from the terminals? Or should I only disconnect a specific set? Lastly, I'm unclear as to what you mean by making sure the "...house lines go dead when you unplug the cable from the jack". Is all I'm looking for no dial tone when a phone is connected to a jack in the house's system?
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 23, 2005 10:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

The red/green and blue/blue-white are probably two separate runs of wiring into the house. DO NOT disconnect them from the terminals, or Vonage won't be able to reach the entire house.

Anyway, unplug the cable from the "test jack", and then make sure you're not getting a dial tone on any of your inside phones. Then it should be safe to plug Vonage into one of your jacks inside.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 23, 2005 10:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Roger...will do this within the hour!
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 23, 2005 12:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

I unplugged the test jack phone cord and plugged the Vonage router into a phone jack in the house. It works! I now have phone service on the other jacks throughout the house. Thanks very much for your help!

Now, however, I have a new issue. Unlike before, I'm now receiving a local AM radio station over the line (regardless of corded/cordless telephone). I do live about 5 miles from the transmitter, so I'm sure that has something to do with it. So, I think I know what the cause of this is, and it's because I've used a 20 foot phone cord to go from the router to the phone jack in my basement. This, I believe, has created an antenna! So, if you agree, let me know what you think the solution is! Out of curiosity, If I move the router closer to the phone jack and use a shorter phone cord, will the ethernet cable I'll have to use to get the equipment closer to the phone jack be another antenna?
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 23, 2005 1:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

I don't have enough experience with interference to know what the real problem is... a shorter cable might help, but there's already hundreds of feet of cable inside the house.

But your ethernet cable should be fine, regardless of length. Ethernet is sent over pairs of wires, twisted together, and the voltages on the wires have opposite polarity. That effectively cancels out most interference, and is the main reason why ethernet is so fast and supports 100-meter runs of cable.

But even if you did get interference over the Ethernet, it wouldn't put AM audio into your Voip signal. Your interference is defintely analog, and it's happening somewhere in the phone wiring.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 23, 2005 2:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Speaking of twisted-pair cabling, I think your blue/white wires are twisted pair, while the red/green aren't. Maybe your Vonage box is connected to one of the red/green jacks. If your house has any jacks that are newer than the rest, try connecting it to one of those, and see if there's any improvement.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 23, 2005 4:20 pm    Post subject: not the same phone box Reply with quote Back to top

Here is my telephone box:



How do I open the other panel? It's not a regular screw.

Can I just unhook the blue/white wire?

Thanks
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 23, 2005 4:32 pm    Post subject: Re: not the same phone box Reply with quote Back to top

plevesque wrote:
How do I open the other panel? It's not a regular screw. Can I just unhook the blue/white wire?

Sure, just unplug that pair of wires (if there's an easy way to do it... using wire cutters is a bad idea.) If your phones all go dead, then chances are you've done the correct thing. It's kinda like diffusing a bomb, only backwards Smile
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