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PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 7:12 am    Post subject: Vonage Wiring Help- 4 wire to 8 wire Reply with quote Back to top

I am trying to run a wire from my distribution block 8 wire (RJ-4Cool connector to my FXO port on my Linksys Router. Anyone have those pinouts... I need to get this cable to turn on my Vonage.

All my phones are hooked up to this distribution block as home runs.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 10:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

I have the same setup in my house. The center 2 wires (blue/white-blue) should be your phone line, if were talking about cat-5 cable.

I used a female to female connector to connect my adapter to the phone network... RJ-45 in one end, and a short cable with RJ-11's on both ends from the phone adapter (router) to the other end of the female / female connector.

An RJ-11 will plug into an RJ-45 socket... just doesn't use up all of the connections!

Good luck!

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 10:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

DISCLAIMER - I did not wire the distribution box, so I can only give advice according to standard wiring practices. I am not responsible if your distribution box is not wired to TIA standards!

Standard 2-Pair Telecom Color Codes (RJ-11)
PAIR 1
Tip - Green
Ring - Red

PAIR 2
Tip - Black
Ring - Yellow

Standard 4-Pair Telecom Color Codes (RJ-45)
PAIR 1
Tip - White/Blue
Ring - Blue

PAIR 2
Tip - White/Orange
Ring - Orange

PAIR 3
Tip - White/Green
Ring - Green

PAIR 4
Tip - White/Brown or White/Slate or White/Violet
Ring - Brown or Slate or Violet

Hold an RJ-45 connector tab down, copper connectors away from you (cable towards you). Pin 1 is on the left and pin 8 is on the right.

Hold an RJ-11 connector tab down, copper connectors away from you (cable towards you). Pin 1 is on the left and pin 4 is on the right.

The pins on the RJ-45 are as follows.
Pin 1 - White/Green
Pin 2 - Green
Pin 3 - White/Orange
Pin 4 - Blue
Pin 5 - White/Blue
Pin 6 - Orange
Pin 7 - White/Brown
Pin 8 - Brown

The Pins on the RJ-11 are as follows:
Pin 1 - Black
Pin 2 - Red
Pin 3 - Green
Pin 4 - Yellow

Connect pins 4&5 from the RJ45 to pins 2&3 on a RJ11 plug to connect to your Line 1 on your Voip router.
Connect pins 3&6 from the RJ45 to pins 1&4 on a RJ11 plug to connect to your Line 2 on your Voip router.

To summarize:
Line 1:
white with blue = green = tip
blue = red = ring

Line 2:
white with orange = black = tip
orange = yellow = ring

Hope this helps and hope that your house uses standard wire practices.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 1:37 pm    Post subject: Vonage Wiring- more info Reply with quote Back to top

Mark and Doug,

Thanks for the replies... i left one thing out... I need to go from the Router FXO Port to my Distribution Block, whick is a 4 pair punch down... that feeds up to 8 phone lines and has one output for my alarm system.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 1:43 am    Post subject: Re: Vonage Wiring- more info Reply with quote Back to top

giza29 wrote:
Mark and Doug,

Thanks for the replies... i left one thing out... I need to go from the Router FXO Port to my Distribution Block, whick is a 4 pair punch down... that feeds up to 8 phone lines and has one output for my alarm system.

Thanks


Doug would have to answer that one...!

Doug, I have a question. I did all of my network / phone wiring (all of it is cat 5E,) and I had different wiring instructions.

My RJ 45's are wired... wht org / org / wht grn / blu / wht blu / grn / wht brn / brn.

On some of my outlets there are instructions for "A" and "B" diagrams. Is this the difference? I can't remember which I used, A or B.

Any info would be appreciated...

(Not my intention to hijack the thread giza29... Just curious about this!)

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 10:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

giza29,

Just a question about your situation. If your distribution block already has cat5e wiring punchdown on it, then just get a new cable and punch it down in the same order as the previous cat5es and then connect the other end (you have to punch down there too) to a RJ45 wall jack. Then get a patch cable from your router and connect it to the wall jack. Isn't that what you need? Or are you trying to bypass the wall jack altogether. If that is the case, then you need to crimp a connector to the end that you want to connect to your router.

Unless I am misreading your post, what type of connection is the FXO port? Is it a rj-45 ethernet port?

mbkerk,

I am by no means an expert but what little reading I have done tells me that A-A is used for the patch cables and you need A-B for a cross-over cable. That is the reason why you have two different configurations. So long as you keep it consistent I don't think there would be any problems with the network. Just my $0.02 worth.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 10:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

mundy5,

I am wiring from the distribution block, which is an 8-wire screw down into my FXO (2 wire) port on the router.... I am going to make up an RJ-11 Jack on one side and punch down the other side into the distribution block. there is no wall jack .... phone lines come in directly to the distribution block.


Per Doug's comments,

The pins on the RJ-45 are as follows.
Pin 1 - White/Green
Pin 2 - Green
Pin 3 - White/Orange
Pin 4 - Blue
Pin 5 - White/Blue
Pin 6 - Orange
Pin 7 - White/Brown
Pin 8 - Brown

The Pins on the RJ-11 are as follows:
Pin 1 - Black
Pin 2 - Red
Pin 3 - Green
Pin 4 - Yellow

Connect pins 4&5 from the RJ45 to pins 2&3 on a RJ11 plug to connect to your Line 1 on your Voip router.

I only need one phone line, so I will just use a CAT-5 cable to make this cable.

Thanks for the response though.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 10:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

giza29,

My statement about a wall jack was in reference to the location of your phone adapter. If you adapter is right next to the distribution block then of course there is no need for a wall jack. From your post I cannot tell where your phone adapter is in reference to the distribution block. In my case, my phone adapter is connected to a regular wall phone jack which is then distributed to the rest of the home wiring. I did not know and still don't know where you adapter is located. Why not just plug it into an available phone jack and you've got service throughout your home. No need to punchdown anything.

I was assuming that your phone adapter was some distance away or even in a different floor than your distribution block.

All you need is the first pair (blue and blue/white) connected to the red/green in the rj11. The second pair is completely unused in a 1 line system.

Anyway, so long as you get it working...

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 12:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Vonage Wiring- more info Reply with quote Back to top

mbkerk wrote:
giza29 wrote:
Mark and Doug,

Thanks for the replies... i left one thing out... I need to go from the Router FXO Port to my Distribution Block, whick is a 4 pair punch down... that feeds up to 8 phone lines and has one output for my alarm system.

Thanks


Doug would have to answer that one...!

Doug, I have a question. I did all of my network / phone wiring (all of it is cat 5E,) and I had different wiring instructions.

My RJ 45's are wired... wht org / org / wht grn / blu / wht blu / grn / wht brn / brn.

On some of my outlets there are instructions for "A" and "B" diagrams. Is this the difference? I can't remember which I used, A or B.

Any info would be appreciated...

(Not my intention to hijack the thread giza29... Just curious about this!)


White/Orange on Pin 1 is the stardard for Ethernet wiring.
White/Green on Pin 1 is the standard for Telephony wiring.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 12:14 pm    Post subject: Re: Vonage Wiring- more info Reply with quote Back to top

giza29 wrote:
Mark and Doug,

Thanks for the replies... i left one thing out... I need to go from the Router FXO Port to my Distribution Block, whick is a 4 pair punch down... that feeds up to 8 phone lines and has one output for my alarm system.

Thanks


By "8 phone lines" I assume you mean 8 physical phones wired to the block?

There are so many different blocks out there in every imaginable oreintation, that without seeing it, I can only speculate.

Can you follow the old analog telephone feed in from the outside and see where that is connected? If so, just replace that with the cable you make with the blue & white/blue from your cat5 cable.

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