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PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2005 12:43 am    Post subject: Cannot Disconnect from NIU! Reply with quote Back to top

So I did all my research on how to do a single-family home wiring set-up. I went to the NIU, opened the only 2 doors that were available to me, simply disconnected the two wires (one blue with white and the other white with blue) from the green and red screw terminals, even removed the test port wire and lo and behold I still had a telco dial tone!!! This is, of course, before I even took my broadband router out of the box. I have a very simple set-up. One phone line in the house, cable modem...not much thinking had to be done to disconnect from the telco and have all of my house jacks running parallel. I'm stumped as to why the dial tone didn't immediately shut off when I disconnected the two wires. Going a step further, there is no apparent or easily seen jack on the inside of the house to which the outside line runs through the wall and connects all the other inside jacks.

Now the weird thing is at midnight, my dial tone and line goes dead as expected. My number transfer just finalized today and the email I received from Vonage told me at midnight I would lose SBC service. OK that's great but I'm fearful I still have a connection to the telco being my dial tone was active when it should have been dead when the wires were disconnected. Am I at risk for hooking up my router and starting my Voip? Is there somewhere else I should be looking to make sure I'm severed from the outside? Please any help would be greatly appreciated.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2005 9:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Matt, sounds to me like the wires you disconnected were not the wires coming in from the telco. Is your home an older home? I ask that because the telco might have upgraded the phone line coming into the home and placed a 2nd NIC somewhere else. That appears to be the only explanation for the fact that you still had a dial tone after you disconnected the two wires from the terminals. Can you follow the wire leaving the NIC that you know of and see where that leads? In my case, it goes to my basement and then I can follow the wire going straight up to my 2nd floor.

I can only guess that there must be a second NIC or a "shared" NIC somewhere else in your home. Please get back to us as you hunt down this mysterious NIC.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2005 9:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

The house was built in the 50's but the NIU box is newer. SBC upgraded them years ago. I try to follow where the line enters the house but it appears to come through the wall to a dead jack. I can disconnect the wires in that jack and the house phones stay live. There was never a phone connected to this jack. The only apparent NIU options for me on the outside of my house where the line comes off the pole is where I disconnected the wires. There's just no other telco box or consumer-accessible door to open besides what I did. The only other box on the house is a larger gray one just below the NIU but it has my broadband coax connection in it. That's it. I can't find a jack inside on that side of the house that acts as the first point of connection to the line coming in from outside.

The only other "box" that's apparently attached to my inside phone wires is my water meter reader. But that's maintained by the Village of Villa Park.

Is it possible there's another NIU buried in the wall somewhere?
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2005 9:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Matt,

You may want to check outside for the NIC...That is where mine is located. Originally the telco wiring went straight into the basement and there old NIC. Several years ago a new line was run from the pole to a NIC attached to the outside of my house and then into the basement, but they never disconnected the old wires so this could be your problem. You may be disconnecting an old set and a the newer feed is still active. Check the outside of your house where all the wires enter from, you may find it there.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2005 9:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Matt, I would suspect that the larger gray box has taken over the functions of the NIC of the Telco. The reason why I say that is because your broadband cable does not require a NIC box of any kind to function. So by the fact that you have a larger gray box, that is my first choice for your "current" connection to the Telco. Open it up. You should notice that it serves as both the central location for your telephone as well as your cable needs. Get back to us on that. Perhaps even taking a picture and posting it on line for us if you have a digital camera.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2005 10:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

The only thing inside that big gray box is a simple coax cable connection with a red tag that says HSD. No telco wires, no hub, just a coax wire running through with a connection. I believe this is my cable broadband interface. I looked in the basement for another NIU. The only NIU is on the outside of the house as per my other posts. The lines come off the pole right into it.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2005 8:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Before you plug in your Vonage Router, make sure and remedy the problem (question). Even though there is no dial tone, the SBC line may still have current going thru it.

The current can "fry" your Voip equipment.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2005 9:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Do you have an attic? If so, have you looked in it for the NIC?

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2005 11:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

No...no attic and my utility room is actually on the other side of the house. I have a splitlevel so my downstairs area is finished. The crawlspace is also nowhere near the line entrance. I called SBC to inquire about the issue and they kept telling me since I'm shut off on their end, nothing would come through the wires...Somehow, that doesn't make me feel better.

How do I upload pictures if I just have them on my hard drive and not URL accessible?
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2005 7:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

mwalus wrote:
How do I upload pictures if I just have them on my hard drive and not URL accessible?


You will need to upload them to a web server that will allow you to directly link to them. You don't have your ISP in your signature, but since we know you have cable I will provide simplified instructions for Comcast.


  1. Go to http://comcast.net (and sign in if necessary)
  2. Enable Personal Web Pages (if you have not done so)
  3. Go to Personal Web Pages and select Web Building Blocks
  4. Select HTTP File Uploading
  5. Browse for the file on your hard drive and click upload file
  6. After the file has uploaded you will get an upload screen with a link to your file. Right click and copy that link.
  7. Create a post and use the photo button to add your photo to your post. Paste the link you copied previously into the dialog box.


If you ISP does not provide server space or you don't have access to it then you could find a free photo site that allows you to directly link to images.

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