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PostPosted: Tue Jun 21, 2005 10:54 pm    Post subject: Vonage Router + Existing Network Reply with quote Back to top

Greetings,

First of all, I'll preface this message by saying "sorry"! I realize this topic probably already exists in these forums, but I can't seem to find it through my searching.

So, onto the question...I just got my Vonage linksys router and am realizing I need to find a creative way to incorporate it into my existing network. The question is: "how do I add the router into my existing network which consists of a cable modem/router and a wireless modem/router?"

Is it possible to daisy chain the connection from the cable modem to the linksys modem to the wireless modem/router?

Let me know what additional information you need to answer my questions!
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 12:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

What's the brand/model of your cable modem, existing router, and new Vonage box?

What you're suggesting is certainly possible, but the specifics may depend on what kind of hardware you have.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 7:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Just connect the Vonage router WAN port (or Internet port) to a port on your existing router. By default, the Vonage router should be set to get an IP address from your existing router (or whatever DHCP server you have on your existing network).

BTW, the Vonage site has some instructions and setup diagrams to help you on this. See http://vonage.com/help.php?category=44&nav=3
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 7:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

that is one way and yes it's posted all over this forum and at vonage.com, but what paul was getting at is you may have quality issues if you have medium-heavy internet usage while on the phone. the rt31p2 and wrt series have a qos feature, but so do some other routers, which is why he was trying to find out what router this person had. some other routers do a better job at qos than the Vonage devices.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 9:52 am    Post subject: Existing Netowrk Reply with quote Back to top

I'll get the make/models of the boxes this eveneing and post them....thanks for you quick replies!
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 9:01 pm    Post subject: Hardware Make/Models Reply with quote Back to top

The equipment I have is the following (connected in this order):
Cable Modem - Linksys BEFCMU10
Wireless Broadband Router - Motorola WR850G

The Linksys Voip router Vonage sent me is model number RT31P2-VD and is not connected to the home network.

I look forward to your help!
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 10:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Ok, it looks like your existing motorola router doesn't have any sort of QoS features, so you'll want to have the RT31P2 connected first in line after the cable modem. That will prevent file transfers from screwing up the quality of your phone calls.

The RT31P2 is a router, and you don't need to have more than one router on a home network, so you'll also want to disable the router on your WR850G, and use it just as a wireless access point and ethernet switch.

This is, in my opinion, the optimal configuration:

1. First, make sure the new router works: connect the WAN port of your RT31P2 into the cable modem, and connect a PC to one of the LAN ports. You should be able to access the Internet and make phone calls.

2. Next, disable all the router-related stuff on the WR850G. Connect a computer to one of its LAN ports, and go to the configuration page. Turn off all of these:
- WAN Interface
- NAT
- Firewall
- LAN DHCP Server

3. Set your WR850G's "LAN Private IP" to 192.168.15.2 (subnet mask 255.255.255.0)

4. Don't plug anything into the WR850G's WAN port. Run a cable from a LAN port on the RT31P2 to a LAN port on the WR850G.

At this point, you should pretty much be up and running. All the wired and wireless computers will get their DHCP addresses and Internet access from the RT31P2. You'll be able to configure the RT31P2 at http://192.168.15.1/, and the WR850G at http://192.168.15.2.

If you ever need to forward ports or anything, then do it on the RT31P2, since that's your only active router.

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For an alternate opinion, see kendolin's posts here:
http://www.vonage-forum.com/ftopic6451.html

His setup has its advantages, but I personally don't like it as much, because all the packets have to jump through 2 routers instead of 1.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 7:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

paul248 wrote:

For an alternate opinion, see kendolin's posts here:
http://www.vonage-forum.com/ftopic6451.html

His setup has its advantages, but I personally don't like it as much, because all the packets have to jump through 2 routers instead of 1.

Paul, thank you for the reference.

Captdave, if you have any questions, I will gladly help!!!
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 25, 2005 12:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

well... yeah, i'll go for paul's config. it's better to use your router/phone adapter as a switch in this setup.. and yes, the other setup also got some advantages, but if it's just gonna be for home use, switch setup is better
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 10:57 pm    Post subject: Network Setup Reply with quote Back to top

Hello again to all...the network is setup and configured using Paul's recommendation. It works great so far! Thanks to all for your help.
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