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PostPosted: Sun Jun 19, 2005 1:51 am    Post subject: Can Linksys RT31P2 work with a proxy? Reply with quote Back to top

I have a bit of a unique situation...

My cable modem and a wireless router are in my home. I have a workshop outdoors about 50' away from the home. I wanted to put a phone line in the workshop so I signed up with Vonage and they sent me a Linksys RT31P2.

In my workshop I have a D-Link A-G wireless card in my main computer (solid 90% signal quality). I then use a software program called AnalogX Proxy to serve internet through a switch to the other 2 computers in my workshop. My browsing, ftp, and email all work fine in the workshop on all 3 computers.

When I received the RT31P2, I could plug it into the wireless router in the house and the Phone1 light would light up and everything would work.

But when I plug it into the switch in the workshop, the Phone1 light does not light up (after the self test is over) even though the Internet LED lights up (& blinks). Also tried the ethernet ports with no difference. I have not made any changes to the RT31P2 configuration itself, as it didn't seem necessary as I am not trying to use it as a DHCP server or router, but simply for Voip access.

Is there any hope of getting this working with my current setup?
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 19, 2005 2:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Hm... that's an interesting one.

Instead of a proxy, you'll need to use NAT on the gateway computer. Windows 2000/XP's built-in Internet sharing feature should work well enough.

Alternatively, you could look into getting a Linksys WRT54G, and putting the third-party Sveasoft firmware on it. From what I've read, that firmware gives you the option of running the router as a client or bridge, instead of an access point.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 19, 2005 2:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

This may or may not work, but you might also want to play with Windows XP's "Bridge Networks" feature. You can select two network connections, and create a bridge to automatically relay traffic from one side to the other... in theory, at least. I've never had much luck with it.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 19, 2005 11:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

paul248 wrote:
Hm... that's an interesting one.

Instead of a proxy, you'll need to use NAT on the gateway computer. Windows 2000/XP's built-in Internet sharing feature should work well enough.


The problem with running a NAT is that (to my knowledge) the subnet changes "downstream" from the NAT computer. So if my main workshop computer is on 192.168.0.10 and I run NAT on it, then my other workshop comptuers would be (for example) 192.168.1.x, causing me not to be able to share files and printers with my NAT computer and computers in the house. Right? That's why I went with the proxy software in the first place, so I could keep everything on the same subnet. If I could keep all of my computers talking to each other, then switching over to a NAT would be a good idea.

By the way, I found out that whenever I have the RT31P2 hooked up, although the Phone1 led is out, I do get a dialtone. However it just goes to a fast busy and the status screen says "can't connect to login server". So it is apparently talking to my network, but the proxy software doesn't forward the port(s) needed by the RT31P2. Right?
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 19, 2005 11:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

If all your computers were truly on the same subnet, then they would all be able to access the Internet through your router directly. The fact that you had to install the proxy seems to indicate that that isn't the case.

If you want to just have one big network, then try messing with the bridge stuff, assuming you've got Windows XP.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 19, 2005 2:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

paul248 wrote:
If all your computers were truly on the same subnet, then they would all be able to access the Internet through your router directly. The fact that you had to install the proxy seems to indicate that that isn't the case.


I could explain all that, but it is kind of a side point.

What about this completely different approach?

What if I hooked up a wireless ethernet bridge and plugged the RT31P2 into it. (Making the RT31P2 a wireless device).

The bridge would access my wireless house internet connection and provide internet access to the RT31P2. (I could make the RT31P2 my DMZ).

I would then turn the DHCP server on in the RT31P2, and would plug it into my workshop switch and get rid of the software proxy altogether. All 3 of my workshop computers would be on a different subnet from the house, but that is fine. I just want them to talk to each other while still having internet access.

Maybe the Vonage would then work because the RT31P2 would basically be plugged directly into my wireless router (via a hardware wireless bridge).

Could this work?
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 19, 2005 2:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Yes, that should work, but wireless bridges might be expensive. That's why I suggested the WRT54G with Sveasoft... it could be cheaper than a dedicated bridge.

Although, even with a bridge, you don't need to divide your network into two subnets. Just connect your switch to the bridge, and connect the computers and RT31P2 to the switch.
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