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PostPosted: Mon Jan 12, 2004 10:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Justpaul,
I'm not worried about good ol' Cablevsion reading my files. My WAP should prevent that. My point was that they don't have to come into your house to see what's hooked up. Their policy is to refuse Tech support if you have a router or anything but a single NIC attached to their modem. They will actually hang up on you if they find out. With that ability, it would be a simple matter for them to do something to sabotage any Voip service but their own and you could never prove they did it.
With the exception of the rebooting problem the Vonage service has been excellent. I'm admitedly not an audiophile but I would rate the sound quality at least equal to my POTS line. I get 392 up and over 3MB down so I have plenty of bandwidth to play with. There is no problem even if 3 laptops are on the net at the same time. For me, the rebooting problem could be a deal killer. I need to have absolutely dependable phone service. Two reboots in four nights is not what I call dependable. I don't know what might have happened if I didn't notice it right away.
My personal feeling is that a well designed system should work, glitch free and without any tweaking, right out of the box. I feel the system should work as designed with the pass through but if it happens again I'll try putting the ATA behind the firewall and see if that helps. I won't be happy but I'll try it. If it doesn't work, it's going back.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 12, 2004 11:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

microwave is no big deal, just an ethernet address like all other last-mile solutions.

The main difference in your setup and mine is static ip instead of dhcp.

1. Set the ip on your ws to 192.168.102.2 with subnet to 255.255.255.0 and gw 192.168.102.1 and connect your ws to the pc port of the vt1000.
2. Open your web browser, go to 192.168.102.1. On the main page, set the ip address to manual using the ip address provided by your isp.
3. On the advanced tab, uncheck the use nat, apply, allow the vt1000 to reboot. After 5 mins, check a phone hooked up to the vt1000 for dialtone (verifying internet connection).
4. unplug your pc from the vt1000, plug it into the lan side of your netgear router, set the ip to dhcp (or whatever ip you want on the private subnet provided by your netgear router)
5. Go to the netgear's configuration page and set the wan ip to the same ip information your isp gave you (you would think it should conflict with the vt1000, but the vt1000 becomes transparent with nat disabled)
6. connect the wan port of the netgear to the pc port of the vt1000.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 12, 2004 11:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

sorry, that last post was by me
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 12, 2004 11:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Thanks JustPaul. I'll give it a try.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 12, 2004 11:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Has anyone experienced this.

I had the setup just as the first post, Cablemodem -> MTA -> Linksys. On both a 4 port and 8 port linksys my link between the Linksys and the MTA would blink on and off (fast) and sure enough a ping test would show the connection dropping. Web surfing worked just fine but gaming showed huge packetloss. If I connected a PC direct to the MTA it worked fine, no drop and no packet loss.

As you can see I tried another linksys just to make sure and other cables too but nothing worked. I ended up giving up on this and just setup my Windows 2003 Server with RRAS.

BTW: Laura I replaced my cisco with the mot for the beeping as well. Now my only problem is that I lose caller ID and have to reboot the MTA.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 12, 2004 11:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

jim-b: I apologize, I am a bit confused as to what problem you are currently experiencing. Are you saying that the vt1000 keeps rebooting and taking your network down with it at the same time?

I agree with you re: everything should work out of the box but I also understand there are too many outside factors that are beyond vonage's control to have a 'one size fits all' solution (though they get pretty close, imo.) It's like writing a virus application that would take down the shields of an armada of alien warships without every having looked at the system before (I hated Independance Day).
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 12, 2004 11:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Macone: first off, let me just verify your MTA has nat disabled and your router shows a public ip on the wan interface.

It sounds to me like you have a chatter problem between your router and mta, so the next thing I would check is make sure you are trying a different ethernet patch cable between your linksys and the vt1000.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 12, 2004 11:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

JustPaul:

Well, I gave it a try, but still no go. The phone works, and the internet port connection light is lit on the router (green rather than yellow as it is when hooked directly to the modem - I think thats a 10 vs 100 thing), but no internetr connectivity. I guess I need to try another router - damn, that one just cost me $115.

Thanks for your help.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 12, 2004 11:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

steffan: what happens when you setup the vt1000 as a passthrough (nat disabled) and hooking up just your pc on the pc port of the mta?
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2004 12:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

justpaul:

I tried this again:

Disable NAT in vt1005v and reboot.
Then, cable Modem -> Vt1005V -> PC.
Reset the pc to dhcp.
Reboot the pc.

Phone works but,
Check winipcfg: "ip autoconfigure address: 169.254.224.87."

169.254.x.x is a range of addresses which a device can give *itself* if its dhcp request fails. (Like if there is no network card in the pc or no dhcp server on the lan/wan.) Asked winipcfg to "release" and "renew." After a long wait, an error message that there is no dhcp server available.

By the way, I could browse a couple of web pages, but that was just stuff internet explorer was pulling out of cache.

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