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PostPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2005 9:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Good point...I did not disconnect anything outside, but still have that, the cell, and the Vonage line...Hopefully will never need to find out...
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2005 11:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

In the US, most inactivated cell phones can still dial 911, even if they aren't subscribed to any plan... Now, in most areas, 911 still has no idea where you are if you call 911 on a cell phone, but that's slowly changing.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2005 2:22 pm    Post subject: How can you test 911 without Reply with quote Back to top

How can you test 911 without getting into trouble with police dept? Most cities have some sort of regulation or law that frown on folks just calling 911 without a real emergency.

I switched from Vonage to Packet 8 because of the 911 issue. Packet 8 offers true E911 service and also their phone plans were cheaper. (w/similar features)
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2005 2:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

because it's not "real" 911 for one thing. as far as those few with "true" 911, I think they should get in trouble for testing it (obviously different people have different opinions on this hot issue), but I believe such laws are geared more toward abusers than a person with a new phone technology that wants to insure their service works one time.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2005 3:15 pm    Post subject: Re: My call to 911 did not work Reply with quote Back to top

This is why I absolutely, always, 100% of the time, never not, will always have a POTS line.

No one except the phone company can provide me with true enhanced 911, and if the power goes out, a fully functional telephone line with a dial tone.

Here's another round of lawsuits on the horizon...

Does your phone work when the power goes out? People increasingly have these cordless phones that don't do anything when the power goes out. I was fortunate to pick up a V-Tech that has a battery-powered base station feature.

I also keep a line-powered cheap handset connected to the copper at all times.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2005 10:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Regarding the post about what were thought "dead" jacks having a live connection for 911 regardless... I just tried that in my apartment, and it didn't work. I got no dial tone. What I did get was a Vonage recording saying my phone may not be plugged into the "correct port" and that I needed to check what I was doing... and if I thought I was doing the right thing, it prompted me to log into my web account to check my account status, then it said "oh-one-zero-eight."

So what's THAT about? Hmmm. I guess living in an apt. and not having the ability to mess with the outside wiring allows me one phone on Vonage? Looks like I might be hooking up that one dedicated 911 line on my traditional jacks with a corded phone. At the ripe old age of 33, I was pretty cavalier about "needing 911" but reading that it can get routed to a "regular business hours only" line or a plainly inappropriate employee sick line makes me a bit nervous. Plus when the power is out, you got nada. (Battery back-up sounds tempting.)

People are right to say, when you get a big cut on your bill, you can't be surprised at the sacrifices, but I'm glad to hear Vonage is being forced to get up to speed quickly on e911. It's not really a good place to save costs. Would I pay a buck more every month or two bucks to have great 911 service? Sure...
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 16, 2005 4:54 am    Post subject: What about the CRTC in Canada? Reply with quote Back to top

miket603 wrote:
the FCC requires telcos to maintain a "soft dial tone" on every line, even if the residence doesn't subscribe to their service. I'm not sure that I would rely on this though.


Does the CRTC have same rule in Canada?

I'm afraid if I give up my land line, someone above me will want a 2nd phone line and I will lose it.

Bell Canada's contracted technician told me there are only 6 pairs of wires in the wall of our 6 storey apartment building


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 16, 2005 7:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Yeah..once a residential telco line has been disconnected, you ain't dialing 911 or anybody else.

Cell phones without service can call 911, but once the full, hard, cold disconnect has taken place with a pots line, there's nothing there to dial.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 16, 2005 9:22 am    Post subject: 911 not always available Reply with quote Back to top

I remember when my folks got there first telephone! It was just after WWII. Could you dial 911 on it? Heck no, it didn't even have a dial on it. We also shared the line with several neighbors. When it worked, which was about one day out of four, an operator would come on the line and say, "number please".

Me, I'm not spellbound by 911. I think it's great if it works but not worth crying about if it doesn't. Cell phone reception here in central Oregon is spotty to say the least. Now just what is all the fuss about being in constant contact with 911? Does your mommy still hold your hand when you cross the street? I have Vonage because it is a cheap way to call long distance! Got a cell phone too! Dang thing says "no Service" about 90% of the time that I think I need it. Having a ball with the last few years of my life though!!

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