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PostPosted: Sat May 14, 2005 6:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

I'm trying to help the best I can, since I am using a pap2 I can't test things as well. But I do have some knowledge using a more then 1 router network. Did you adjust the IP addy on the linksys unit? to match the dlink 192.168.0.XXX?



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Could some of you help me on my posting?


Have you tried getting in touch with some of the Vonage employees that are members on the site?

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PostPosted: Sun May 15, 2005 12:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

EnJaNir wrote:
You shouldn't need to do that.

The linksys unit will get its IP from the Dlink. Make sure that the linksys unit has dhcp disabled and that its IP address is different form the dlink. DLink 192.168.1.1 : linksys 192.168.1.2. And do not use the WAN port on the linksys, plug the cable from port 1 on the dlink to port 1-4 on the linksys.

Through your browser you will then beable to view both set up pages
192.168.1.1 and 192.168.1.2 from any pc plugged into either unit.


Well you're wrong! you're going to have to setup remote administration on the router because the router doesn't have it's original address of 192.168.15.1. If you keep that address for the router (which means that it is the first router connected to the cable modem than your wireless router is the second router in the chain) then you don't have to setup remote administration. BUT because he's changing the address you HAVE TO setup remote administration otherwise you won't be able to access the router config pages.
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PostPosted: Sun May 15, 2005 12:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

SBMongoos wrote:
Need some help:

1) I cannot access my Linksys RT unit. I cannot find the IP address to login. Also...is it normal that the phone light is off on the RT when you connect your router to a regular port on the RT instead of the WAN port.

2) My QOS ****. How do you guys get your QOS so high?

3) My MAX Pause looks to be off the scale compared to those that are testing well. Is there a way to correct this?

By the way. Isn't it risky plugging my RT into my DLink router via a regular port on the RT instead of the WAN port. I've discovered that if for any reason you power cycle the RT you lose phone service. The only way to get it back online is plug the ethernet cable back into the WAN port on the RT. Seems you can move it back to a regular port once online. But...do you lose phone service again over time?


Dude, listen to what I said before and reset the router configs and set it up like I described. You will be able to access the router configs via your pc (should be able to access both router config pages via their IP address) as long as you setup remote administration for the second router. If you do not do this you will not be able to EVER access your second router's config pages.
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PostPosted: Sun May 15, 2005 12:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

SBMongoos wrote:
okay....I must be in a hurry..

The cable between the DLink and the Linksys has been moved. It now comes from port 1 on the DLink to port 1 on the Linksys. Now I can login and now I get an IP address on my laptop when it's connected to the Linksys. So....they makes it obvious.

However, I'm a little concerned about the phone light on the front. It does go off shortly after making this cable change. PLUS....I lose phone service as well.

So....I guess I have to move the DLink cable back to going into the WAN port on the Linksys otherwise this simply doesn't work. How does you other guys get this to work when you have Cable Modem -> Router -> Vonage RT/Adapter?????



You seriously must be stupid since about 8 posts ago I said that you HAVE TO have the cable from the d-link to the RT router plugged into....what?...THE WAN PORT. If you do NOT do this you will not get service. However, you won't be able to get an IP address when you plug a laptop into a regular port on the switch AFTER you plug the cable from the d-link back into the WAN port. This is because the two routers aren't linked together as "switches" anymore. If you want to link to routers together to expand the amount of ports that you have you would like the two regular port to each other. But obviously since you didn't do that they aren't hooked together. If you wanted to expand your port then simply run another cord from your d-link router to a regular port on the RT router and you should be able to get an IP address from the d-link. I'm not exactly sure if that works or not but in theory in should. If you listen to the other guy that is only posting once and not helping you then you aren't going to have your phone service work. I can't believe you aren't listening to me because I am up and running fine and have the same setup as you. Funny how people can read exactly what you're saying and still miss 100% of it.
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PostPosted: Sun May 15, 2005 12:37 pm    Post subject: Flaming Reply with quote Back to top

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Tone it down on the flaming, it is uncalled for and will not be tolerated here.

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PostPosted: Sun May 15, 2005 1:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Man, no need to be so rude, I am just trying to help.

I can tell you from expierence using multiple router networks that remote adminsitration does not need to be turned on to access router A, B, or C on the network. You just need to make sure that each router has its own unique IP.

I also have the pap2 fully functional behind a 2 router network.

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PostPosted: Sun May 15, 2005 4:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Hey there,

if there has been anyone MORE frustrated on this forum than I have been, that person deeds to have a visit by strong men in white coats.

One of my posting chains has been locked because I tried to express that frustration in the subject line.

But this is not about me, it is about a SOLUTION.

Please go to my previous posting,
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Unable to set up Router No Dial tone+ many attempts
and see what Mundy5 said.

The basic problem was that the cable modem and the RT were not able to connect because the cable modem was looking for my old RT.

My problem was also similar to mongoose. No phone. Perhaps you could adapt the stuff that mundy5 said to your situation. But first,you need to isolate the actual problem. I couldn't he helped me, and that is what this forum is all about.

PS remember the admonition of the mod. Don't rant or rage, it annoys him, and he locks up threads.

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PostPosted: Sun May 15, 2005 4:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Poppa you just said something that caught my attention.

With my local ISP, Insight, you must "register" your device with them. If you switch devices you no longer have access to the internet without reregistering the new device.

If you just use the linksys unit, do you have full access to the net and your phones?

If you switch to using the dlink unit do you have full access to the net?

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PostPosted: Sun May 15, 2005 8:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Correct, EnJaNir

It is the old sender/reciever model.

It could be that your local ISP's cable router is looking for the old router. Since the new one is not the old one, it will not communicate.

Look at Mundy'5's post, and adapt it to your system. Look in the Internet for the page that corresponds to the cable modem.

That is why mongoose is not able to get the phone light on the router, also

That is why this forum exists.

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PostPosted: Mon May 16, 2005 12:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Phone service is up and running.

It's a combination of things to get things to work. I used both some of EnJaNir and dmfish ideas.

Some have said you can plug your router into one of the standard ports on the Linksys (with Cable Modem -> Router -> Linksys adapter) and it will work fine. For me it doesn't. It will very temporarily then I lose service (if you simply move the connection from the WAN port to a regular port that is, if you power cycle between switching ports I get dropped right away) . So it has to be plugged into the WAN port on the Linksys (I'm using port 1 on the DLink). Also, it appears I may have to setup Remote Admin on the Linksys if I want to be able to access it from a computer on my network as dmfish said. Since I'm using the WAN port on the Linksys this seems to be the choice if I want to log into it. Otherwise to login into the Linksys I have to switch from the WAN port to a regular port.

Since I was getting feedback from more than one source I wanted to explore the options and see what worked. I should have held off on my responses until I worked more with the equipment. I now have phone service going from my DLink (from port 1) to my Linksys adapter and going into it's WAN port. Nothing else will work as I've tried it. I prefer to take the time to experiment and see. Best way to learn "hands on". I'll need to look into setting up Remote Admin on the Linksys so I can log into it.

Anyway.... I'll see about the Remote Admin tomorrow.
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