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PostPosted: Sat Apr 30, 2005 8:33 pm    Post subject: New Construction - No Telco NIU Reply with quote Back to top

I have moved into a new home and the LEC (Alltel in Charlotte, NC) has not installed a NIU yet. I don't want to have to pay a connection fee to the LEC since I am using Vonage (transferring from an old house), so I am looking for suggestions.

Some of the phone jacks in my house are bridged in a structured wiring center, but there are about 3 additional jacks that the electrician installed that are not connected to anything. Right now, I have four Cat5 wires exiting my house - 1 from the bridged wiring center and 3 from the unconnected jacks. It isn't a huge deal that the three standalone jacks won't be integrated into the "wired" jacks because I am using a multihandset wireless phone system, but I do want a solution to make these 4 wires hanging on the outside not appear so unfinished. Also, do I need to somehow ground these wires?

I went to Home Depot and looked at different weatherproof electrical access box solutions, but then I also needed something to bridge the 1 and 3 wires. I thought about buying one of the Leviton phone bridges and sticking in the access box, but there just wasn't a good fit for the smaller boxes that I was looking at. I just held off until asking this forum.

I am open to any suggestions or ideas. Thanks!
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Are you able to locate where the 4 cables are coming out from? Can you get to them? Is so, why not just pull them into the home and tie them up since you don't need them. Otherwise, the only other option is to just wait for the NIC to be installed. I don't see a reason why you need to go out and buy a bridge at this point. The telco shoud not charge you for anything unless you order from them. I believe the NIC is standard but maybe I'm wrong. They should put one up regardless of whether you use their service or not. I don't think they will connect your home to the NIC however. That they probably will charge.
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PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2005 11:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

All of the lines are just hanging in a group on the outside of my home. I have tied them up so they're not dragging on the ground, but I would like to do something to bridge up all of the jacks. One of the wires leads to a distribution panel that connects 6 jacks, but the other 3 wires lead to 3 independent jacks. I need something to bridge them together and be somewhat clean looking, weatherproof, etc.
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PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2005 2:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

There are some smaller datacom bridging modules (e.g. Leviton Model 47603-110) that might fit, however I used a simple 8 conductor screw terminal I found an aisle over from the datacom products at Home Depot for a similar issue.

Grounding your outside box is probably not as critical as grounding a NID is. The grounding of the NID is primarily to prevent surges on outdoor telephone lines (lightning strikes) from entering your house. You would be better served to have your phone line surge suppressed at your adaptor and sharing the same ground as used for your equipment (i.e. the same ground as your UPS). However, depending on the type of enclosure you are using, it may require a ground.

Of course the above assumes that those four CAT5 cables are not run for any distance outside. In that case they need to be lightning arrested where they enter the house.

Finally, having those three jacks not connected through your structured wiring center is a flaw. If you ever want to use that CAT5 for a wired network (or any other future purpose) you are going to have to get creative. Is there no way to get those three lines run to your wiring center instead of directly to the NID location?

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