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PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2005 2:50 pm    Post subject: Router and Timing Issues... Reply with quote Back to top

So I recently purchased a Condo, my first home.

I'd like to avoid Telus, and therefore will be ordering high speed internet through Shaw, and I'm thinking about getting Vonage for my phone service.

So I have two questions...

1) If I sign up with Vonage, what sort of equiptment do they send? Phone adapter and router? Just the phone adapter and if I want a router with QoS I have to buy my own? What if I want the router to be wireless?

2) How long does it take them to ship the stuff, so I minimze my time without a phone.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2005 5:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Well, you can buy the necessary equipment from London Drugs, Staples, or Radio Shack. If you don't have a router already, you can purchase a wireless Linksys Router with the Vonage phone adapter built in. There is a rebate available for this ($65.00). Purchasing the router or adapter is quicker as activation is immediate through on the line link from the Vonage web site.

You can order the adapter from the Vonage web site also. I believe that they ship within five business days. They will charge you shipping/handling ($20) and an activation fee ($40). You can avoid this by purchasing your adapter or router and activating on line.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2005 6:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Then, having done more research this afternoon, what would people recommend..

Option 1) WRT54GP2 alone
Option 2) WRT54G plus the seperate adapter?

I've heard the WRT54GP2 has noise on the line? But then again, I've heard that the QoS on the WRT54G doesn't always work..?
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2005 6:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

I have a WRT54G router with the separate adapter (Linksys PAP2). I haven't had any issues with it. The WRT54G router has QoS control but I haven't had the need to use it.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2005 6:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Option 2. No question about it. Lots of great 3rd party firmware for the Linksys WRT54G/GS router that will optimize your phone service.

The Vonage Linksys router is locked by Vonage...you cannot change the firmware now or ever, even if you change Voip services or go back to POTS. You are paying a lot of money for that extra Vonage capability in the router.

I suggest you get the separate Linksys router and a retail Vonage telephone adapter. In the US the telephone adapters are at Costco and elsewhere. (Do you have Costco there?) You can probably get a rebate on the Linksys router, and a rebate on the telephone adapter that makes it practically free.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2005 6:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

almahix wrote:
In the US the telephone adapters are at Costco and elsewhere. (Do you have Costco there?) You can probably get a rebate on the Linksys router, and a rebate on the telephone adapter that makes it practically free.


Yes, there is Costco here but they but they don't carry Vonage kits. Only London Drugs, Staples, and Radio Shack carry Vonage kits in Canada. A $65 rebate is available for kits purchased from one of these retail outlets.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2005 9:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

miket603 wrote:
Yes, there is Costco here but they but they don't carry Vonage kits. Only London Drugs, Staples, and Radio Shack carry Vonage kits in Canada. A $65 rebate is available for kits purchased from one of these retail outlets.


Yeah, the chains in Canada are NOT as eager to jump into the Voip stuff yet. I think it is only a matter of time before they are all offering Voip. I heard that Wal-Mart was getting into their own flavour of Voip. (Or flavor as they say in the US)

London Drugs is not available in Ottawa or in Quebec, New Brunswick, Nova Scotia, Newfoundland, or PEI. It seems to be popular in the western provinces. The rest of the country has Staples and Radio Shack.

I was in Florida a couple of weeks ago and noticed that Best Buy in Florida was distributing the various routers/adapters for Vonage. Here in Canada, Best Buy is only carrying Primus TalkBroadband Voip service. FutureShop is another store similar to Best Buy which is only carrying Primus. Vonage needs to launch an attack on the Canadian Best Buy and Future Shop chains to get them to do the same thing that the US is doing.


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 6:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

I notice they are selling primus at futureshop for $19.95. Does this include the adaptor that Primus themselves are selling for $99.95?
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 10:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

I noticed that too, the page on the Furture Shop site doesn't really say what you're getting for $19.99, at least that I could see.

I'm also under the impression that Furture Shop and Best Buy are owned by the same company, something I read in the paper a few years ago.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 10:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Yep, it's true. Best Buy bought out Future Shop a couple of years ago. Out West here, we have both Best Buy and Future Shop stores.
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