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PostPosted: Sat Apr 05, 2003 3:47 pm    Post subject: configurable Router Reply with quote Back to top

My Vonage service has been nearly perfect. I did have one incident when a call was dropped during a conversation and I couldn't dial out for about 15 minutes. Otherwise, it's been very, very reliable with excellent voice quality. My only problem has been having 3 teens that like to download using Kazaa. I hate having to yell "are you guys downloading?" when the Vonage phone rings and yelling at them to stop if they are. Does anyone know a specific model of router that is configurable enough to give the ATA priority over other devices?

One other question: I like to tinker around a lot and I've perused the Packet 8 web page and read about their DTA 310 device. I wouldn't mind a second device for my fax machine, my 2 satellite receivers, and as a backup to my primary Vonage phone. Anyone know if the DTA310 and the ATA186 can coexist ona single broadband connection? Packet 8 has a nice $19 per month plan (1000 minutes) that would be perfect for a 2nd line for me. Thanks for any info.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 05, 2003 4:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Regarding packet8 I have use the packet 8 DTA 310 and the Vonage ATA 186. Together on the same LAN with no problems. Other than making calls on both services at the same time degrades call quality on both.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 05, 2003 5:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

A router might be one way but I would look into a catalyst switch. With a device like a Cisco Catalyst 2900 you can manage each port as an individually. You can control bandwidth and setup VLAN’s. I would look for a cheaper alternative then a Cisco switch.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 06, 2003 11:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

I realize the catalyst 2900 are expensive they are just the ones I have experience with. Looks like Antipas has found some good alternatives.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 06, 2003 2:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

I have a Cisco border router (806) and I'm playing around with the QoS (Quality of Service). I'll report any interesting findings here...

If your issue is that downloads are disrupting your calls, I don't think it's as simple as applying QoS at your border. You need QoS at whatever the chokepoint is, and more than likely it's at the next hop up from your border router. Can you give more details on your border setup (bandwidth from ISP - up/down), and issues you're having?
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2003 8:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Thanks, Nasty for your request for more info. I live in a very rural area, 5 miles from the nearest tiny town which doesn't even have a red light. We're 15 miles from the nearest city (Chester, SC). Our entire county has DSL Lite with download speeds around 320 and upload speeds around 300 mbps. Very few people way out here in the woods have DSL and our speeds are about double what the phone company (ChesterTelephone) advertises. When my kids are downloading, I get jerky sounds using my Vonage. If no one is downloading, our calls are always very high quality. I was thinking that a QoS type router/switch which prioritized my network devices might make Vonage calls better while still downloading, since I don't seem to share my broadband with any neighbors, etc.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2003 11:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

I've been giving this some thought and I really don't think QoS is going to help you. When you're getting your data "down" from the DSL, the packets arrive sequentially, one at a time. So, there's no need for any kind of intelligent decision as to which packet to forward first. It's basically FIFO (first-in-first-out). QoS only helps in situations where multiple packets can arrive at the same time and the router needs to make a decision as to which one to forward first.

It may make a difference for the packets going out of your network, though. If you have a router with one ethernet on the ISP side, and multiple ethernets on your homenetwork side, you have just such a situation. If packets come in simultaneously from each of the "homenet" ports, the router needs to decide which one to forward out to the ISP first. Setting QoS would tell the router to forward the voice traffic first.

For fun I set up Priority Queueing on my Cisco border router -- so it gives priority to packets that are port 5060 (SIP). It hasn't made any difference, though, because my router has 2 eth ports -- one on the home side, and one on the ISP side, so there's never more than one packet arriving at any one time on either interface.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2003 2:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Thanks, Nasty. That makes sense to me (the fifo from TelCo).
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2003 2:33 pm    Post subject: I set up my linksys for QoS... Reply with quote Back to top

The linksys allows you to specify a switched port the have a high priority over the other ports...

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Being a *nix geek myself, its possible to provide QoS through FreeBSD.
With some firewalls and a kernel module named dummynet, you can rate limit things to provide optimal service. Not sure how geeky the original poster is, but this might be a less expensive option to look into.

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