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PostPosted: Sat Apr 09, 2005 12:41 pm    Post subject: Problem accessing RT31PT configuration Reply with quote Back to top

I can't access the RT31PT configuration by the default ip - 192.168.15.1. I can access my wireless-b linksys router configuration with it's default 192.168.1.1 but it is in front of the RT31PT. I thought about resetting the RT31PT router but I thought I would ask on here first to possibly save time, effort & see if it is because it's behind the other router. I have the modem ran into the WAN on the wireless-b router & then the RT31PT WAN to one of it's own LAN ports & then another one of it's other LAN ports to one of the first routers LAN ports. The setup works great but I can't access my config on the RT31PT. Does anyone have any suggestions aside from resetting the router??????????????
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 09, 2005 3:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

I'm experiencing a similar problem. When I connect from my computer to the RT31P2 router and go to http://192.168.15.1 I get a page cannot be displayed error.

This is the first step in Kevin Donahue's instructions for connecting the RT31P2 to the BEFSR41 router and I can't even do that. If anyone has experiece with Kevin's configuration or additional information on this configuration, I'd be happy to hear that also.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 09, 2005 4:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

I believe the problem is because the computer you are using to access the RT31P is on the 192.168.1 subnet rather than the 192.168.15 subnet. This would be the case if your wireless router was giving you DHCP addresses since you mentioned it had an IP of 192.168.1.1.

You can choose to re-assign the RT31P IP to something like 192.168.1.2 or you can enable remote administration on the RT31P.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 09, 2005 7:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

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I believe the problem is because the computer you are using to access the RT31P is on the 192.168.1 subnet rather than the 192.168.15 subnet. This would be the case if your wireless router was giving you DHCP addresses since you mentioned it had an IP of 192.168.1.1.


Your PC need to be behind the RT31PT in order to configure it. I would plug your PC into the RT31P2 and then attempt to configure it by going to 192.168.15.1 and then assign it a new IP address in the range of your other router say 192.168.15.2 and then put your configuration back to the way you had it before.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 10:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Thanks for the insight guys. Both suggestions sound logical although initially I was thinking more on the lines of what tommy13v replied. I will give these suggestions a try.............
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 5:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Are you sure that you have the cabling right between the modem, BEFW11S4, and RT31P2? Let's work through this and get you set up. It seems to me that the cable modem must connect to the Internet port on the BEFW11S4 (it is clearly marked as such), then a numbered Ethernet port (WAN or LAN) on the BEFW11S4 connects to the Internet port on the RT31P2. It simply won't work any other way, in my opinion! The following describes what I mean (with extra RT31P2 and PC's):
http://www.vonage.com/help_knowledgeBase_article.php?category=45&article=220
This is your hookup description:
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I have the modem ran into the WAN on the wireless-b router & then the RT31PT WAN to one of it's own LAN ports & then another one of it's other LAN ports to one of the first routers LAN ports. The setup works great but I can't access my config on the RT31PT. Does anyone have any suggestions aside from resetting the router??????????????

I am sorry JO3 but it seems to me that your hookup description, as it reads, has a few flaws in it, first of all it makes no sense to me at all, but that's my problem:
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1) cable modem to WAN (Wide Area Network) on the wireless-b router just can't be a correct description or a correct connection; The Specifications for the Linksys BEFW11S4 are as follows:
ftp://ftp.linksys.com/datasheet/befw11s4_v4_ds.pdf
The port specifications clearly describe:
One - 10/100 RJ45 Port For Broadband Modem (Internet)
Four - 10/100 RJ45 Switched Ports (WAN or LAN as you call them)
This means that the cable modem is to be connected to the separate Broadband Internet Port on the router and Not one of the numbered Ethernet (WAN) ports.

2) Next you run something into the RT31P2 WAN port. (Forgive me but I find that description too vague to make any sense out of it.) In the same manner, this cannot work. You must run a BEFW11S4 numbered Ethernet (WAN) Port into the RT31P2 Internet Port (it is clearly labled as such).

3) Now for some reason you run a LAN (WAN) from the RT31P2 back to a LAN (WAN) Port on the BEFW11S4. You got me on that one. I am sorry JO3 but this one makes absolutely no sense to me at all. I think that, maybe, you are having difficulty in understanding the standard nomenclature for these Ports and their uses.

If you have followed me this far and have chosen to take my advice on this issue, then please take the following steps as necessary that are described in: http://www.vonage.com/help_knowledgeBase_article.php?category=45&article=220 (it's easier to give you the URL than writing them out).

After everything has been hooked up and running, I suggest that you reset your BEFW11S4 and your RT11P2 to factory defaults by depressing the reset button in the rear of the routers for about ten to thirty seconds and then release. You will have to reset your password. If you have a need to set up certain ports you will have to set them up again. It's worth it. If you need further instructions on not being able to access your Web-Based Utility or to reset your devices they can be found in the Linksys Installation and Troubleshooting Guide that came with your equipment.

In my opinion I recommend that you enable DHCP and set it to "Obtain an IP Automatically". Let the routers adjust the IP addresses by themselves. I find it tedious to manually adjust Static IP's especially when you have Wi-Fi and the machines will do it for you anyway.

That's my two bits. Good luck. I hope that you solve your routing problem.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 6:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Mike,

Actually his cabling is correct. He is using the RT31 as a switch, which is why he has a cable running from port x of the BEFW to port y of the RT31. The cable modem is also correctly wired into the "WAN" port of the BEFW (which has been renamed to the Internet port in later models).

Apparently due to the RT31 not having anything plugged into its Internet port, the phone jacks will not be active, therefore he must loop a network cable from the Internet port to any of the numbered ports on the RT31.

All he should have to do to get back in shape is to change the IP of the RT31 to be on the 192.168.1 subnet following tommy13's instructions, then he'll be able to administor both routers from his machine.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 5:33 pm    Post subject: Think before you act.......... Reply with quote Back to top

I love how mbhn5204 said that I don't understand how the ports on routers work. I am a computer science major in college, have had home networks for years & been a long time power user, so I think I know a little about routers. And yes WAN is the Internet port & the others are LAN. The terms WAN/LAN that you think are so alien sounding are known by any half knowledgeable pc user. WAN means "Wide Area Network" or in your case "Internet" & LAN means "Local Area Network" or in your case "The other 3 or 4 ethernet pluggy thingies (let's say it all together) "Not The Internet" I don't claim to know everything (we all can learn more in technology) but I can handle myself around one of them there new fangled contraptions called a commodor 64. But seriously, Idoerich is correct; my setup works great, I just want to be able to access my RT31PT configuration & this can be done as described above I just came on here to make sure I was on the right track, to save time & effort. Im sorry mbhn5204 im not picking on you but anyone that feels competent in computers would take some of your comments as an insult.
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PostPosted: Sun May 22, 2005 3:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

ldoerich wrote:
Mike,

Actually his cabling is correct. He is using the RT31 as a switch, which is why he has a cable running from port x of the BEFW to port y of the RT31. The cable modem is also correctly wired into the "WAN" port of the BEFW (which has been renamed to the Internet port in later models).

Apparently due to the RT31 not having anything plugged into its Internet port, the phone jacks will not be active, therefore he must loop a network cable from the Internet port to any of the numbered ports on the RT31.........


I currently have modem connected to "WAN" (Internet) port on WRT54GS. I then have "LAN" port of WRT54GS connected to "WAN" port on RT31. And that's it (aside from telephone line into phone port)!!! WRT is assigning IP 192.168.1.101 to RT and I set RT up for remote management using the default port number of 8080. I can ping the RT (using both IP's) but I can't access it via web using the DHCP assigned IP. If I run a cable from a "LAN" port of RT31 to NIC on my pc, I can access Web Utility using the original IP of the RT31 (192.168.15.1).

Could the reason for not being able to access remotely be because of how I connected the wires? The phone and internet are working fine and I don't know if this will mess things up.

Can you help?!?!?

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PostPosted: Sun May 22, 2005 3:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

that is the correct cabling. many people including myself have it set up this way with no problem, so your issue is either with a firewall or something else. I would also try it with a different port. and you still haven't mentioned how your computers are hooked up. I assume computers are all on the wrt? and again make sure you include the port number when accessing it. in your case it would be http://192.168.1.101:8080

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