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Happy Vonage customer, but looking to switch from Mot gear
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technofiend
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Joined: Mar 23, 2005
Posts: 5
Posted:
Fri Mar 25, 2005 4:58 pm
Post subject: Happy Vonage customer, but looking to switch from Mot gear
Vonage
works well enough for me, but my local ADT office refuses to support
Vonage
any more.
Combined with worries about power loss = phone loss and of course my wife concern's about Vonage's proxy 911 support
(their dispatch center calls for you) and I'm looking
to buy a Sipura 3000 which addresses all concerns.
The issue is -- will
Vonage
support me with the same telephone number and service plan? I'm current using the Motorola box they gave me when I signed up a year ago or so.
The Sipura's dialing plans will let me autoroute 911 to the POTS line, and in the case of power loss, automatically connects the
Voip
line to the POTS line. So it seems
like the answer if
Vonage
will let me use it and not treat it as a softphone? Advice or help would be appreciated.
mbhn5204
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Joined: Jan 19, 2005
Posts: 492
Location: Denver, Colorado
Posted:
Fri Mar 25, 2005 5:30 pm
Post subject:
Could you please be a bit more specific? Some structure to your post and a clear question would be helpful. Thanks.
911?, Motorola?, Sipura?, autoconnect to POTS?
What does your setup look like?
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Medic63
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Joined: Jul 09, 2004
Posts: 98
Location: Butler PA
Posted:
Fri Mar 25, 2005 7:45 pm
Post subject:
I do not think
Vonage
will support your Sipura. AFAIK, they only support the Motorola VT1000 (or VT1005, depending upon where you read it), and the Linksys devices (PAP2, RT31P2 and WRT54GP2).
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reebok
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Joined: Oct 24, 2004
Posts: 3198
Location: Lakeland, FL
Posted:
Sat Mar 26, 2005 8:47 am
Post subject:
I haven't looked at the 3000, but it sounds like the lifeline feature that some
Voip
boxes offer. I know sunrocket has it on theirs, but I'm not sure if any other companies offer it (besides ones that support byod obviously) and actually that's the answer to your question...vonage does not support byod. I will be surprised if their next ta doesn't offer a lifeline feature though.
fwiw,
Vonage
also supports the original cisco ata186 along with those other ones.
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Medic63
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Joined: Jul 09, 2004
Posts: 98
Location: Butler PA
Posted:
Sat Mar 26, 2005 10:32 am
Post subject:
Oops!
Forgot about the Cisco!
Thanks John, for reminding me.
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OldSnipe
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Joined: Mar 16, 2005
Posts: 249
Location: Bend, Oregon
Posted:
Sat Mar 26, 2005 11:25 am
Post subject: Re: Happy Vonage customer, but looking to switch from Mot ge
technofiend wrote:
and in the case of power loss, automatically connects the
Voip
line to the POTS line.
Vonage
automatically forwards your call to whatever number you have plugged in if cable is lost. Powering down your adapter = power lost. In my case I forward to my cell phone. I cannot get obsessed with 911... I spent too many happy years before 911 was invented to believe I now need a leash connecting me to the firehouse and police. In any case I believe that in a year or so 911 will get sorted out.
Well, that's my 2 cents
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technofiend
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Joined: Mar 23, 2005
Posts: 5
Posted:
Sat Mar 26, 2005 11:28 am
Post subject:
Well
Vonage
technically supports the Sipura gear as their Linksys products are really Sipura under the hood.
http://voxilla.com/voxstory84-nested-order0-threshold0.html
The real issue as reebok has stated is whether or not
Vonage
supports "bring your own device" (byod) installations, yet.
So far, the only yes or no response has been reebok's. But if anyone else has had any success with a byod installation
please let me know.
mbhn5204 Sipura is a company founded by the folks who wrote the original Motorola ATA-186 firmware. They left Motorola
and started their own company. Perhaps you've picked it up from context by now, but the Sipura-3000 has some really
nice features in how it handles given calls. More on that after a few explanations.
Most
Voip
devices have one RJ-45 jack that connects to your TCP/IP network, and one RJ-11 jack for connection to your phone(s).
The Sipura has two RJ-11 jacks, one for your phone(s) and one that connects the device to your traditional phone company's (ILEC's)
standard every day copper pair they use to supply you with Plain Old Telephone Service (POTS).
Why? So this device can act as a bridge between your
Voip
service and your POTS service. I.E. You can call home, do a bit of fiddling
and connect across your
Voip
line. Additionally as rebook implied the Sipura-3000 has a "lifeline" feature.
In specific if the power fails on the 3000 a relay automatically connects your POTS service to the jack where your
Voip
service is supplied.
And as I mentioned earlier, call routing rules can make the Sipura send calls over your POTS service rather than through your
Voip
provider. For instance, here in Texas, we typically have unmetered phone service where we pay a flat fee for an unlimited number of local-call minutes. If you were on a 500 minute/month plan from
Vonage
, given an option, you would never route your local calls across
Vonage
. The Sipura 3000 could in my case route calls to Area Code 713, 281, or 832 to my POTS service, and everything else to my
Voip
service, saving minutes on my
Vonage
plan.
For my application I want to route 911 calls or any modem calls from devices such as my Tivo to POTS. This instantly
bypasses Vonage's 911 dispatch proxying they do, and it also keeps me from needing to do any packetization changes
to my service for data calls to flow over
Vonage
, as it is no longer needed. It also makes my alarm company ADT happy
as I'll still have a good old copper POTS connection which they know how to deal with.
So back to the real question at hand - if anyone knows of someone taking an off-the-shelf Sipura device and configuring it to look like the Sipura/Linksys gear
Vonage
supports, or of another BYOD install please let me know.
technofiend
New Forum Member
Joined: Mar 23, 2005
Posts: 5
Posted:
Sun Mar 27, 2005 1:51 pm
Post subject:
After a little more work digging around, I see Voxzilla has a wizard will configure the Sipura-3000 as a
Vonage
softphone.
http://voxilla.com/spa3kconfig.php
So, I'm halfway there. Just need to figure out how to convince
Vonage
this device should be a 'hardphone' account and not a softphone account. LOL.
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