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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 10:44 pm    Post subject: DSL or cable for broadband? Reply with quote Back to top

I've had Vonage for about a week and am reasonably satisfied thus far. My broadband is via cable and that's the only kind I've ever had. I'm moving soon to another city and I find that at my new address I will be able to get broadband via cable or DSL. My plan is to use Vonage for phone service in the house backed up by cell phones for mobile service.
The DSL is from Qwest which apparently does sell it independent of phone service. (I was surprised to learn this.) Cable is from Cox. One argument for cable is that you can get a bundled price with TV service, but I don't watch TV. (Really! My TV set is only used for watching DVD's and tapes.) Cox does sell cable broadband alone, albeit at a higher price. (Same with Qwest; unbundled DSL is priced higher than together with phone service.)

Advertised DSL download speeds are lower, but upload speeds are comparable. I'm not heavy into downloading, mostly web surfing, so I'm not sure whether or not I'd miss the speed.

DSL cost is somewhat lower than cable. Another DSL selling point is that the line is dedicated; you're not sharing it as with cable. Is this a significant factor or just ad hype?

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 12:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

I would always go with cable broadband over DSL if I had the choice.

DSL is nothing more than a copper phone line that is being stretched to the maximum. Cable on the other hand is always evolving.... they have only scratched the surface as to the type of bandwith they can pump over these lines...

thats why I believe that the cable co's have a strong play. I envision a world in five years where you can come home from work and click on the TV (or clapper Smile ) and have your flat screen go on to display internet tv.. with real time stock quotes.. a web cam for on demand web conferencing... emails.. chats.. it will literally bring the world together.. It will all be done on the cable backbone.. they will make a strong play for the "triple play" and all of the people that can design software for the apps that will be in demand, will make some good $$$$.

I really can evision it... especially for the online fantasy gaming industry.. (fantasy football, baseball, etc..)

But back to your question. I firmly believe that cable broadband will give you the best bang for your buck and with their build outs and maturation of their networks, you really don't have to work about clogging.. from the shared nature of the service... Its way robust now, and will only get more robust as we see bandwith get more and more ubiquitous.

anyone else??

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 2:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

In the end, Cable will probably be your best bet. Especially if you want to wire your house and don't want to mess with the DSL wiring etc.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 3:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Hmmm....

I'd opt for cable, but mostly for the download speed and the fact that it would then be easier to get Voip throughout the house (if indeed you are moving to a house, an apartment would be a different story).
On the other hand, you'd probably have somewhat less chance of an ISP outage with DSL, however, you'd still have to be concerned about power outages. In which case you'd still need a UPS to provide at least short-term battery back-up for your ATA , DSL modem and cordless phone (if that's what you have).

Just my two-cents worth.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 8:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Coming from a DSL only subscriber and reading lots of posts here:

1) Cable = fast and big download speed (so I read and my friends tell me).
2) DSL may be stable (as my USA VDSL is). In fact, this one service I have carries 3 streams of video (54Mbps of 200+ TV channels but not HDTV) but no pixilating issues... ever... for several years. It is 1Mbps/512Kbps (4x256Kbps and 4 IPs) of internet. I've had only two reboots in like 5 years as well and Caller ID over the TV! Very Cool. This is QWest Choice TV and Online by the way. Voip friendly and never had any issues (not even a reboot) PAP2 for 4 months - used as an extra phone line. No cable available when I first subscribed but never looked back even after digital cable arrived in the area. Sounds like a comercial but I really hate the QWest phone service pricing so take it for what its worth.
3) ADSL bandwidth and quality in Thailand on the other had is very demand related changes often. Voip un-friendly as it can be. Very service-centric. Seems like buisness class is the only viable option at the moment.

If you have a choice and download bandwidth is not the only driver, I'd think twice about DSL (only because I have had a long, flawless experience with VDSL). You may find a local group that can help one way or the other with experience on both services IN YOUR NEW AREA. The local network/company seems to mean the most important part in my humble opinion.

Oh, one other thing: DSL normally comes with a phone line... with its own power. Unless you have a generator and know your broadband provider also has one this may be a consideration for higher likelyhood of having phone service in a black/brownout. Just a thought.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 4:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Thanks everyone for your insightful comments.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 9:53 pm    Post subject: Re: DSL or cable for broadband? Reply with quote Back to top

Economically, it doesn't make sense to have Vonage with dsl, at least not with Bellsouth. For their dsl service, you have to have a phone line. So you would be paying the telco for phone and dsl service , plus paying Vonage for phone service. My isp is Earthlink, although service is actually provided by the Time Warner infrastructure. (But my monthly rate is three dollars cheaper than the TW customers pay. Figure that one out.) And the internet speed is a good bit faster than dsl. So for my purposes, Cable broadband plus Vonage works for the best.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 2005 10:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

One time for cable! I had a ga-zillion probs w/ Verizon DSL. Now am surfing and downloading quite happily for a couple of years with my Brighthouse Networks Broadband.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 2005 11:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

They both will work. Which is more convenient, and less expensive? How much bandwidth do you need? USB or Ethernet connector on device? Read the FAQ's and Help knowledge base at Vonage.com?

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 2005 3:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

The "dedicated line" thing with DSL is largely hype. It's only "dedicated" between your house and the Central Office. It's still subject to oversubscription and congestion from there.

DSL's maximum bandwidth degrades the further you are away from the CO. It's worth trying to find out how far from the CO your new residence is. Typically, if it's more than 12,000 ft, your downstream bandwidth will be reduced.

Both DSL and cable can only be as good as the local wiring. This can be a particular problem in older neighborhoods, where the wiring may be decades old. In some neighborhoods the cable may be in better shape than the phone lines (seems like people's tolerance for lousy TV reception is lower than their tolerance for static on the phone) but the reverse can be true as well.

Best bet - talk to your future neighbors, and see what they are having success with.

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