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PostPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 11:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

crazyivan wrote:
Thanks for your reply plyons.

In the filter of my router only room for 4 DCHP adresses. I guess that`s what you get for 4 ports. Wireless switch and laptop are taking 2, 1 for each and other 2 PC`s remaining two. I guess you are right, i should get 8 port router.

Is it possible to open all ports on that Vonage device? Meaning not to use any filtering? Or it`s not disareable?

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You could always put the Vonage router first, put your existing router into the Vonage router's DMZ, and disable QoS on the Vonage router.

That will keep it from making phone call data priority and will forward all incoming traffic to your existing router.

Just a suggestion.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 11:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Michael545 wrote:
Not sure, but I think he means there are only 4 physical ethernet ports...

That's not at all what he's saying:

"In the filter of my router only room for 4 DCHP adresses. I guess that`s what you get for 4 ports."

Clearly he thinks his DHCP is limited to 4 addresses, which he is then assuming is because he only has 4 ports.

None of it makes sense, of course, which is why he is here with a problem.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 11:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

You're right - I missed that. I wonder what filter he is referring to here? Every router I've ever seen has the ability to dispense at least 50 (if not more) unique DHCP addresses on the LAN.

Anyway - that said - it might not even be needed. Just put the Vonage device in the router's DMZ - the device has it's own IP anyway. This assumes that he can actually connect it to the router, of course. It sounds like all 4 ports on the router are used, in which case a hub might work just fine.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 12:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

A typical phone at high quality call uses about 11K/sec.

A 56k modem can handle about 6K/sec
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 12:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

ToddlerTN wrote:
Hey something's not right about that. There's no way your router is limited to 4 DHCP addresses. Check the manual. What model is it?


Hello,

When i said "that`s what you get for 4 ports" - it`s just my way of thinking hehe. Router is DLink 704Pi... and current firmare allows only 4 DHCP addresses (4 ID`s). Original firmware...2.6 i think it was, didn`t even allow DHCP filtering Smile

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You could always put the Vonage router first, put your existing router into the Vonage router's DMZ, and disable QoS on the Vonage router.

That will keep it from making phone call data priority and will forward all incoming traffic to your existing router.


That`s what i was thinking of, thanks for confirmation Smile Wasn`t sure if that was possible.

Regardless.. i`m leaning towards getting 8port Linksys router.

Thanks for all your input guys.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 12:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

I'm not sure what router this is - I can't get a hit on Google for that model number.

Which filters are you referencing ?
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 12:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

I can tell you that I did my setup just a little different. I did put my Linksys Vonage router in front of my D-Link router. I only did this so I could play with the QoS settings. However, I think it will only affect the priority of packets leaving your router. I doubt it is true QoS tagging and I doubt that my ISP would give it priority over other data packets.

I put my D-link router behind the outside firewall (not in DMZ) and forwarded what ports I needed for internal services to my D-link router. Then I forwarded from the D-link router to the internal node. It seems to work fine. However, I don't care for the firewall ability on the Linksys RT31P2. It won't let me write specific rules to only allow specific source addresses. As it sits, you have to allow all Internet traffic to internal devices with port forwarding. This might cause me to put the D-link back in front and maybe hang the Linksys behind it. I know this setup works also, because my brother is running it this way.

Just a few options for you.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 1:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

crazyivan wrote:
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When i said "that`s what you get for 4 ports" - it`s just my way of thinking hehe. Router is DLink 704Pi... and current firmare allows only 4 DHCP addresses (4 ID`s). Original firmware...2.6 i think it was, didn`t even allow DHCP filtering Smile

Not the newest router...bout 3 years old Embarassed
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OK... Let's get this back OT and help Ivan out. We know you don't need QOS and generally we don't want to put anything in any DMZ if it can be avoided.

So let's get back to this "firmware allows only 4 DHCP addresses".

You confuse things further (or maybe help us) when you continue "...original firmware ... didn't even allow DHCP filtering".

Ivan... why or what are you trying to filter? DHCP simply assings IP addresses to network devices attached to the router. Do you mean port forwarding? Or, do you mean DHCP reservations, whereby you "assign" an IP address to a specific hardware MAC address? Help us out here.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 1:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Thanks for your input guys. Looks like i made up my mind and just called and ordered this puppy: http://www.linksys.com/products/product.asp?grid=34&scid=29&prid=604

80 bucks, no big deal. That way i can set everything up behind the router and be done with it. Smile

Thanks again. Will let you know about my experiances with Vonage in about 2 days. Package still on the road somewhere Cool

Cheers!
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 1:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

plyons wrote:
crazyivan wrote:
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When i said "that`s what you get for 4 ports" - it`s just my way of thinking hehe. Router is DLink 704Pi... and current firmare allows only 4 DHCP addresses (4 ID`s). Original firmware...2.6 i think it was, didn`t even allow DHCP filtering Smile

Not the newest router...bout 3 years old Embarassed
.


OK... Let's get this back OT and help Ivan out. We know you don't need QOS and generally we don't want to put anything in any DMZ if it can be avoided.

So let's get back to this "firmware allows only 4 DHCP addresses".

You confuse things further (or maybe help us) when you continue "...original firmware ... didn't even allow DHCP filtering".

Ivan... why or what are you trying to filter? DHCP simply assings IP addresses to network devices attached to the router. Do you mean port forwarding? Or, do you mean DHCP reservations, whereby you "assign" an IP address to a specific hardware MAC address? Help us out here.


Oh, i pretty much know the concept of DHCP plyons, it`s the control panel of the new firmware does not allow more then 4 entries for DHCP addresses. You get 4 entry fields, that`s it. Unless... it might be storing those addresses on the back ground... I`ll check when i get home.
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