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PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 5:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

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I was just glancing at the Vonage softphone page (http://vonage.com/features.php?feature=softphone) and now I'm wondering, is the $10 for specifically their program? That is, could I just use the regular Vonage plan with a free third party softphone such as x-lite?


No, the $10 is for the phone number and 500 minutes/month. Additional minutes are 3.9 cents.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 5:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

If you do not have the ability to use another server then I would suggest using the softphone account with Vonage but remember the softphone option is an add on service, you still need to purchase a residential package as well.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 5:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Yeah I'd really like to see the softphone either become available without a regular plan.. or be able to (optionally and waiving all technical support) be able to use my own device... if Vonage doesn't want to support it fine... I'm tech savy enough to do it myself
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Check me if I'm wrong, but if you get four static IP addresses from SpeakEasy, and you put the Vonage adapter in front of the rest of your network, then (a) the Vonage adapter will eat up one of your four statics, and (b) your other three statics will be unusable behind the Vonage adapter, which is a gateway. Although maybe there's some funky routing you can setup that I'm not aware of.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 6:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

They should be able to put the Vonage device behind the WAP (or get a router if it doesn't have hardwire) and use it on DHCP.. why waste an IP?
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matth wrote:
They should be able to put the Vonage device behind the WAP (or get a router if it doesn't have hardwire) and use it on DHCP.. why waste an IP?


Ok great. You're exactly right, we aren't about to give up a static for it. I just wasn't sure if it would all connect properly.

ToddlerTN, that sounds right. There might be some crazy setup that would make it work, but it was tough enough to get our LAN the way it is now (fun problems with NAT, ports, conflicting routers, etc). But basically, does it come down to a) give up one or all statics and get the QoS priority stuff or b) put the Voip box on DHCP and not get QoS?
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 6:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Pretty much yeah... other option is to build a linux bridge device with TOS/QOS built into it and give your Voip packets a higher priority Razz

But seriously.. what do you need 4 external IPS for? You can map ports through the router.. and MOST things work fine without maps.
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matth wrote:
Pretty much yeah... other option is to build a linux bridge device with TOS/QOS built into it and give your Voip packets a higher priority Razz

But seriously.. what do you need 4 external IPS for? You can map ports through the router.. and MOST things work fine without maps.


Is there really a big quality/latency difference from QoS? If it's not going to add that much I'm not going to worry about it.

We don't *need* the 4 statics, but the DSL package came with them, no extra charge. Since there are 3 of us, it worked itself out naturally...and since I'm the one pushing this Voip project, I might consider giving up my static, but my roommates sure wouldn't Razz

Another question, as long as i'm responding... We're all online gamers, and how much impact will Voip traffic have on our available bandwith? Hopefully not much, we got the 6.0/768 to avoid bandwidth issues as much as possible.
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matth wrote:
They should be able to put the Vonage device behind the WAP (or get a router if it doesn't have hardwire) and use it on DHCP.. why waste an IP?

Yeah that was my point, although I'd probably opt for putting everything behind a single IP address...I can't imagine why they need four external IP addresses, but maybe they will explain it.

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ToddlerTN wrote:
Check me if I'm wrong, but if you get four static IP addresses from SpeakEasy, and you put the Vonage adapter in front of the rest of your network, then (a) the Vonage adapter will eat up one of your four statics, and (b) your other three statics will be unusable behind the Vonage adapter, which is a gateway. Although maybe there's some funky routing you can setup that I'm not aware of.


I fell into the trap of thinking only of my adapter the VT1000. In the pass-through mode the VT1000 will consume one static IP but the remainder should work fine. (I was initially under the impression that the VT1000 in pass-through mode did not consume an IP address, but recent research casts doubt upon that supposition.)

The more advanced adapters also function as routers so you should be able to set up the remaining computers with static IP addresses and then configure the netmask or static routes to allow them to be addressed.

So a) yes, b) depends on configuration and adapter

(I have my VT1000 inside my router because it was unreliable outside.)

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