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PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 1:33 am    Post subject: High Bandwidth Usage + Wireless + Vonage = My setup Reply with quote Back to top

I just signed up for Vonage.

My situation is as follows:

I currently have a commercial cable internet connection. The connection offers and advertised 10Mbps down/1Mbps up.

On the connection I run a server that consumes a continious upstream 18 Kbytes/s (141 Kbps or 0.14 Mbps) per second of data transfer. This datastream takes priority over all other connection usage.

The location setup is 100% 802.11g wireless.


I have just purchased an 802.11g bridge/access point - and plan to plug the linksys Vonage adaptor into the bridge/access point, which resides ~20 feet and 2 drywall walls away from the wireless router. The bridge/access point gets >95% signal - thus 54 Mbps (55296 Kbps, 6750 Kbytes/s) data-transfer is possible between the bridge/access point and the router.

Based on the "Bandwidth Saver" setup within the Vonage controlpanel - a "higher" quality setting is equal to 50 Kbps (6.25 Kbytes/s, 0.5 Mbps) of data-transfer.

So with my maximum upload rate of 1Mbps (128 Kbytes/s, 1024 Kbps) - I should have no problem managing both my server upload of 141 kbps ~and~ my Vonage upstream of 50 kbps (191 kbps combined, 24 kbytes/s). In fact - I should only be using ~18% of my total upstream.

The one caveat I guess is whether or not my upstream is actually capable of sustaining 24 kbytes/s. I have tested the system and the upstream average is well above 500 kbps (62 kbytes/s) - so I don't forsee a problem.

I'm expecting to get this all setup within the next day or two and will post an update at that time. I expect the sound quality to be superior to my regular CLEC, even more so considering I have my bandwidth saver set to "higher".

Wish me luck. Lol
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 8:45 am    Post subject: Re: High Bandwidth Usage + Wireless + Vonage = My setup Reply with quote Back to top

rjp123 wrote:
So with my maximum upload rate of 1Mbps (128 Kbytes/s, 1024 Kbps) - I should have no problem managing both my server upload of 141 kbps ~and~ my Vonage upstream of 50 kbps (191 kbps combined, 24 kbytes/s). In fact - I should only be using ~18% of my total upstream.

From what I have read via the Vonage Learning Center -- if you want to get proper Voice clarity/quality you will need a minimum of 90 Kbps of bandwidth upstream --- not sure where you get 50 Kbps although with bandwidth saver I assume it may adjust that number.

However, in view of the fact that you have a commercial cable internet connection that supports 10Mbps down/1Mbps up -- should be more than enough for Voip to work effectively [assuming 90 Kbps] and for as long as the 802.11e component built into the Linksys Phone adapter does its part. What you need to confirm is whether the way that you wish to setup your bridging will negate the 802.11e [QoS] --- I suspect that it will be negated unless the Linksys Bridge your purchase has the ability to exploit that aspect via any of the Ethernet ports provided via the bridge.

FYI, 802.11e provides Quality of Service (QoS) support for LAN applications, which is critical for delay-sensitive applications such as Voice over Wireless IP (VoWIP). The standard provides classes of service with managed levels of QoS for data, voice, and video applications.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 9:49 am    Post subject: Re: High Bandwidth Usage + Wireless + Vonage = My setup Reply with quote Back to top

mozerd wrote:
From what I have read via the Vonage Learning Center -- if you want to get proper Voice clarity/quality you will need a minimum of 90 Kbps of bandwidth upstream --- not sure where you get 50 Kbps although with bandwidth saver I assume it may adjust that number.


The bandwidth saver has 3 options:
- Normal (30 kbps)
- Higher (50 kbps)
- Highest (90 kbps)

Based on the above - would the 30 kbps not be the default setup for Vonage (thus the "normal" label)?

mozerd wrote:
What you need to confirm is whether the way that you wish to setup your bridging will negate the 802.11e [QoS] --- I suspect that it will be negated unless the Linksys Bridge your purchase has the ability to exploit that aspect via any of the Ethernet ports provided via the bridge.


I agree 802.11e will make a big difference in quality.

With the initial setup - the QoS features of the Linksys Vonage adaptor will be negated by the fact the adaptor will be connected to the bridge/access point (SMC 2870W) - NOT the actual cable connection.

I just did some digging and unfortunately the router does not currently have any sort of QoS support (SMC 2804WBR). I suspect I'll have to just set it all up - test it out - and purchase a QoS supporting router if problems exist.

mozerd wrote:
FYI, 802.11e provides Quality of Service (QoS) support for LAN applications, which is critical for delay-sensitive applications such as Voice over Wireless IP (VoWIP). The standard provides classes of service with managed levels of QoS for data, voice, and video applications.


Are you aware of any routers / bridges that specifically address VoWIP?

Maybe it's time I went back to ZyXEL. SMC seems good for the uncomplicated small business setup - but perhaps with what I'm trying to accomplish here a more robust network hardware provider is necessary.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 11:09 am    Post subject: Re: High Bandwidth Usage + Wireless + Vonage = My setup Reply with quote Back to top

rjp123 wrote:
would the 30 kbps not be the default setup for Vonage (thus the "normal" label)?
I was led to believe that if you want to experince Best Quality maching Landline you need 90 Kbps

rjp123 wrote:
Are you aware of any routers


I use the Belkin Pre-N F5D8230-4 Router/Access Point which incorporates 802.11e support on each Ethernet port. Vonage provided me with the Linksys RT31P2 Phone adapter/router --- On the Belkin I plugged an Ethernet cable from one of the 4 Ethernet ports into the Linksys RT31P2 Internet [WAN] port and the Belkin is successfully managing the data streams utilizing QoS --- so far I am very satisfied with the results but its very early in my trials.

Linksys Have a Router WRT54GX that also provides the exact same stuff that the Belkin above provides.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 1:11 pm    Post subject: Re: High Bandwidth Usage + Wireless + Vonage = My setup Reply with quote Back to top

rjp123 wrote:
I just signed up for Vonage.
The one caveat I guess is whether or not my upstream is actually capable of sustaining 24 kbytes/s. I have tested the system and the upstream average is well above 500 kbps (62 kbytes/s) - so I don't forsee a problem.


Just set it to high.

Does your router have QoS? If so, give the Vonage MAC address Premium service levels to avoid late delivery of the packets.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 2:01 pm    Post subject: Re: High Bandwidth Usage + Wireless + Vonage = My setup Reply with quote Back to top

coolspot wrote:
Does your router have QoS? If so, give the Vonage MAC address Premium service levels to avoid late delivery of the packets.


Unfortunately it doesn't - so it looks like I might have some issues come up. We will have to see.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 4:55 pm    Post subject: Re: High Bandwidth Usage + Wireless + Vonage = My setup Reply with quote Back to top

rjp123 wrote:
coolspot wrote:
Does your router have QoS? If so, give the Vonage MAC address Premium service levels to avoid late delivery of the packets.


Unfortunately it doesn't - so it looks like I might have some issues come up. We will have to see.



Just curious... what type of router do you have?


Also, don't place the Voip adapter ahead of your router... this seems to cause problems with port forwarding. If you're having sound quality issues, try placing the Voip adapter in your router's DMZ.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 15, 2005 10:47 pm    Post subject: Re: High Bandwidth Usage + Wireless + Vonage = My setup Reply with quote Back to top

coolspot wrote:
Just curious... what type of router do you have?


I am using a SMC 2804WBR router and an SMC 2870 Wireless Access Point. Both sit behind a ZyWALL 10 internet security gateway.

My setup works like this:

Internet --> ZyWALL 10 --> SMC 2804WBR --> SMC 2870 --> Linksys RT31P2 --> VTEC 5.8 ghz cordless

After about 2 hours of tinkering around (mostly trying to get the access point working), I am Vonage'd!!! Smile

Even with my continuous 17 kbyte/s upstream data transfer from another server - Vonage works well, without any adjustment on the "bandwidth saver" (it is using whatever the default setting is).

Mind you - I've only used 5 to 10 minutes of calling - but so far so good.

Based on my packet analysis - my non-Vonage rx/tx is 1 kbyte/s (rx) and 17 kbyte/s (tx). With Vonage the rx/tx jumps about 10 kbyte/s on each (11 kbyte/s rx, 27 kbyte/s tx).

I will keep everybody updated as to more results as I increase usage - but so far, so good!
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 3:57 am    Post subject: 64Kb DSL Reply with quote Back to top

I am using a 64Kb DSL line for Vonage and my Inernet needs, the quality of voice is excellent. I am 2 continets away from Canada.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 10:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Doesn't the Zywall have QoS? I'm pretty sure it does... You should setup a rule to prioritize the packets on the zywall.

BTW, is there a reason why you have a Zywall AND a SMC router? Seems sort of redundant Smile
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