Patching back into an Isolated Home phone network.

Posts: 2 · New Forum Member Joined: Mar 09, 2005 Posts: 2

Hi, I am a newbie. I just purchased a Pap2 unit from a box store. Unfortunately the sales folks were unable to answer the following question.
Hopefully you can help.
I want to send the output of the adapter back into my home parallel network (Which will be Disconnected from Verizon). Thus, I would like the Vonage port to feed into my existing infrastructure. The infrastructure feeds into a centralpoint, with all phone jacks connected in a star arrangement, i.i.e.. there are NO phones or fax machines connected in series. They are all in parallel.
I have the following devices that I would like to use:
- One fax machine (An HP printer / all in one unit)
- Three generic wall phones, Touch Tone with a ringer
- One Wall phone with an answering machine integrated into the phone.
- A voice activated/phone modem that queries my Alarm system
==> Will all this still work? Do I need a line driver? Pls answer. Thx!!

Posts: 5 · New Forum Member Joined: Mar 02, 2005 Posts: 5

I read somewhere that the PAP2 can support up to five phones; any more loading and some phones may not ring. It seems as though you'll exceed the limit so you may need a booster. I don't think your network topology matters too much, since electrically all the devices are in parallel.

Posts: 244 · Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 11:25 am Post subject:

Yes it works, just disconnect all wiring from your NIC on the outside of you house. Then run the phone port from the PAP2 to any phone jack in your house.

PRESTO

Mine is done the exact same way with 4 phones. Works great

Posts: 47 · Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 1:17 pm Post subject:

Disconnect the feed to the customer access side of your NID (Network Interface Device, gray colored box outside your house, or in the basement, utility room). Most commonly this is a modular plug with a short wire that goes to the other side of the NID, held in place by a large metal retainer clip that would need to be lifted up (so the modular plug doesn't come out by accident). Don't disconnect the phone lines (drops, or colorful wires) that come from the inside of your house. This is often the place where the different phone jacks in your house are connected together.

Then, run a phone line from your phone adapter to a phone jack. If you want a phone pluged in to that jack too, you will need to get a phone jack splitter.

If this doesn't make sense, take a picture of your NID, PM me and I'll have you email me the pic, and I'll try to walk you through it.

Matt

Posts: 5 · New Forum Member Joined: Mar 09, 2005 Posts: 5

I just set mine up last night, left 3 phones on the land line until disconnected and then patched the rest in in the basement, just used the punchdown I had and made a cable from the Phone1 port to the "in" port on my setup.

The only thing I don't like is that both ports are not hot with the same number on the Linksys, why don't they use pair 1 for line 1 and pair 2 for line 2 just like all normal systems?

When I ordered it I thought both ports would be hot and I could run 5 phones off one jack and 5 off the other to split the load/impedance. Guess not.

Posts: 47 · Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 1:41 pm Post subject:

taschwenke wrote:

I just set mine up last night, left 3 phones on the land line until disconnected and then patched the rest in in the basement, just used the punchdown I had and made a cable from the Phone1 port to the "in" port on my setup.

The only thing I don't like is that both ports are not hot with the same number on the Linksys, why don't they use pair 1 for line 1 and pair 2 for line 2 just like all normal systems?

When I ordered it I thought both ports would be hot and I could run 5 phones off one jack and 5 off the other to split the load/impedance. Guess not.

I think the "expected" use of the phone adapters is to just have a phone or fax machine plugged into the back of the unit, not to do extensive wiring or backfeeding.

Matt

Posts: 2 · New Forum Member Joined: Mar 09, 2005 Posts: 2

Thanks for all your responses. From the sounds of what you stated this should work. I have one other ODD device that also must work. Please comment on this. I Have a Ademco 414XMP Alarm System In the system I have added their modular I/O that is connected over the phone line. It uses the Ringer in a specified manner (Like a Fax machine) to que it on a first call, and then it answers on a second call and one codes in a know key over the phone. At that point one can operate the alarm from a phone as if it were a keypad. You can do this from an external phone, or a phone connectyed to the system... Thus all phones in th3e house become a virtual keypad.

Anyone know if trhis hardware will continue to function? I believe the keys are (A) is teh Vonage Ring the same as a TELCO ring, and (B) are TELCO tones generated when entering information over a phone.

Thx!