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PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2005 6:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

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Well, at the verge of being flamed.... I stand with my opinion... Regulate Vonage.


Please take this kindly, but I believe you are sorely mistaken if you think regulations will fix *your* issues.


"My" issues? As site admin I would think that youve seen the hundreds of posts with issues. Hundreds, ? probably thousands. Especially today, this was no isolated incident. This was in fact a Vonage failure. This im sure is not the first, and wont be the last.


No, most of the rest of us understand what we are getting into when we signed up for Vonage. We understood that Vonage was not as reliable as copper, therefor most of us have some sort of back up. I have a cell phone. And what most of the pro regulation crowd dosen't seem to get, is that if this happens very often, then Vonage will run off the customers to other Voip providers or back to copper. It's not in Vonage's best interest to have very many outages like this. Regulation will not stop this from happening.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2005 7:02 pm    Post subject: Re: Interesting Reply with quote Back to top

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But don't get me wrong, I'm definitely not for government regulation. I declare that the FCC is completely, utterly inept - and is in fact hurting the public interest these days. I say that as a licensed amateur radio operator, and I really, really mean it.


Lots of us amateurs are early adopters of new technology. But you're right - the FCC is getting into content management instead of bandwidth management which I believe is their rightful function.


No, not quite. The FCC has no business in content managment. I'm using the current indecenty issues the FCC is dealing with as an example, but it's not the FCC's function to determine what is offensive and what isn't. What's offensive here in Louisville might not be offensive in Los Angeles. Market forces should be driving content, not federal regulation.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2005 7:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Well kyscott, you are entitled to your opinion as all of us here are. I will continue to push for regulation as I stated earlier. All of those that feel the same way I do should do the same. Mass voices are heard more than one (in any situation). This is what makes the world go round.. the difference in opinion. Good luck to getting what you want, and I wish myself the same. Just like you said.... if they do end up regulating, then you can go to wherever youd like as can I and everyone else. Thanks for your input.

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Is AT&T regulated? What about Time Warner? Both of these are providing Voip service for FAR LESS than POTS and yet are regulated. Funny how that works, isn't it? In fact, AT&T is a massive $5 more expensive that Vonage, and from what I hear doesn't have service in the whole country go out every other month.


AT&T is regulated, but Voip is not, regardless of whether the company who provides the Voip service also provides regulated services such as POTS. Not to mention the fact that any regulatory related charges would not be included in the monthly access charge advertised on the web site, as anyone who signs up for a $25 landline service but receives a minimum monthly bill of $30-$35 knows. Furthermore, AT&T CallVantage and Verizon Voicewing services, provided by two regulated companies, are the worst rated Voip services based on reviews.
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Is AT&T regulated? What about Time Warner? Both of these are providing Voip service for FAR LESS than POTS and yet are regulated. Funny how that works, isn't it? In fact, AT&T is a massive $5 more expensive that Vonage, and from what I hear doesn't have service in the whole country go out every other month.


AT&T is regulated, but Voip is not, regardless of whether the company who provides the Voip service also provides regulated services such as POTS. Not to mention the fact that any regulatory related charges would not be included in the monthly access charge advertised on the web site, as anyone who signs up for a $25 landline service but receives a minimum monthly bill of $30-$35 knows. Furthermore, AT&T CallVantage and Verizon Voicewing services, provided by two regulated companies, are the worst rated Voip services based on reviews.


And on this site (http://www.dslreports.com/isplist?t=voip) which actually has reviews by hundreds of users rather than a single biased web site, they are rated well.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2005 7:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

I disagree with regulation. I think this would open the door to regulate other things on the internet. Not only would we be paying more for Voip, but potentially our Internet connection, and hoards of other things. Let's not even think about it!

The bottom line in any business is that if you don't provide decent customer service, customers will leave. That is punishment enough!

I really think that the accidental outage that Vonage had on March 4, 2005 is being blown out of proportion. At this point in time, I am willing to give them some leeway. It would be another thing however, if an entire city was shutdown with no phone service (which means no emergency services access). I really do believe that Voip will improve, just as it has been improving over the past several years. The first Voip service I tried about 5 years ago was over my computer. It really sucked compared to what I have now. I'm quite impressed by how far we came in such a short time, thanks largely to these funky little adapters. Don't worry, more things will be done to ensure Vonage service does not crash. The CEO announced that they have taken correction action against this to prevent it from happening again.

Talk is cheap, but let them show us. Have some faith and patience. Let's wait and see.
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I disagree with regulation. I think this would open the door to regulate other things on the internet. Not only would we be paying more for Voip, but potentially our Internet connection, and hoards of other things. Let's not even think about it!


But your internet connection is ALREADY regulated. Got cable? DSL? Dial-up? You're using a *regulated* service.

Yes Vonage and others have lots of time to get on the ball before regulation. If they don't, however... well.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2005 7:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Correct MR VitaminM. They are regulated by a company. NOT THE FCC. They do not have the same standards as POTS are required to have. Why do you think that AT&T and Verizon POTS lines have such a high up time percentage? and Call Vantage and Voicewing does not? Same reason. They Voip side of them are not managed by the FCC or another entity which requires service to be consistently good.

Just like the Vonage Rep on the phone told me about my port... basically that they are not regulated by the FCC so that my port would be done whenever they got to it and that i was just going to have to deal with it. Not worded exactly but thats what it summed to. I think i quoted what he said in another post.

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Here in Canada, one of our largest monopolies is Bell Canada. They have hooks into Canadian telephones (millions), cell phones, television networks, satellite dishes, and several other smaller ventures. Their customer service is the worst that you can find. This is a regulated company. They are regulated by our FCC, which in Canada is called CRTC - Canadian Radio and Telecommunications Commission. I currently have cell phone service with Bell. Since May 2004, I have had my phone bills come with a different flavor of price each month. I have to call them each month to get it corrected, and last month the customer service rep would not correct it. He would not put me through to a supervisor either. I called back - same thing. They are charging me $6.00 more per month now, for nothing. I signed a 2-year contract and cannot get out of it until December of this year. In the meantime, they seem to be allowed to change my monthly charges to whatever they please. One month I received a bill for over $75. My bill was always $34.74 prior to signing the 2 year contract when I bought a new cell phone.

This is a company that is regulated. What good does it do? I've stressed myself out over these problems for months with Bell, and I seem to have no control or power over what they are doing to my phone service. I have even threatened to take them to court over this. They don't care.

Currently, several Canadians are in court due to Bell Canada charging a CRTC Fee of $6.95 per month on everyone's cell phone bill. They say that this fee is to provide you with a license to transmit your voice over the airwaves. However, the CRTC when questioned stated that they do not receive any of this money from Bell. So where is the money going? This is where the law suit starts. They are being taken to court by a very large group of people who are getting fed up with their scams. I just hope that they win.

Once again I reiterate that Bell is a regulated company. It means diddly squat. They do whatever they please anyhow.
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HEY!! What happened to VitaminM's post? Why was the link edited? Why was it taken out? Because it contains Vonage competition? Unreal. It is the same link that Trek put up... Evil or Very Mad

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