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PostPosted: Tue Mar 01, 2005 4:41 pm    Post subject: Home wiring - mix of voip and pots Reply with quote Back to top

Hello all,
I recently signed up for Vonage service and would like to run my home jacks on Vonage, however I also have a home office line running Verizon. I have isolated the home line from the office line on the NIU outside. Can I run Vonage by just disconnecting the home jack line in the NIU, or do I have to disconnect ALL the jacks from the phone company so that there is no voltage...which I can not do, because I need to keep the office line on Verizon?
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 01, 2005 5:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

You should be fine. I ran Vonage and POTS service side-by-side on lines 1&2 while I was waiting for my LNP.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 01, 2005 8:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

One simple solution is get a 2-line duplex adapter from an office supply store. Feed your Vonage into Line #2. You will need additional duplex adapters around your home so you can plug a phone into your Vonage line without doing any rewiring.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 01, 2005 9:20 pm    Post subject: Re: Home wiring - mix of voip and pots Reply with quote Back to top

webskis wrote:
Hello all,
I recently signed up for Vonage service and would like to run my home jacks on Vonage, however I also have a home office line running Verizon. I have isolated the home line from the office line on the NIU outside. Can I run Vonage by just disconnecting the home jack line in the NIU, or do I have to disconnect ALL the jacks from the phone company so that there is no voltage...which I can not do, because I need to keep the office line on Verizon?


As Scerutti says, you can ...however don't mix things up.
Scerutti is using the 2 pair conductor, primary pair for one line and secondary pair for the 2nd line. Whatever you do - WARNING WARNING
do NOT under any circumstances connect your Vonage device to a system that is connected to your telco's network interface! IF the secondary pair is connected to it, do NOT connect!

But people keep asking about how many lines, how many phones, can I connect to my house wiring, can I this .. can I that..
MAny factors.
How BIG is your house? Do you have a ten BR house? IS the house super large but only 4 BR?
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2005 3:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

A really quick generic answer would be that you can stick as many phone lines in as you have pairs of wire -- if you have 3 pairs (6 wires) then you can have 3 lines, and yes, one pair can be connected to the NID while another is connected to your Vonage box, of course be sure it's a seperate pair, and that none of your jacks cross it.

The easiest way to do this is to simply have different jacks wired for different pairs, for example you'll probably already be using "blue" for your landline, so you could use "orange" for your Vonage box -- as long as it's disconnected from the NID outside, you can actually plug the Vonage box into any jack wired for "orange" and it'll spread the signal to all the other "orange" jacks as long as the other jacks are connected to it somehow.

That said, the single 'easiest' way when you have a spot you want to use dual lines like this is to simply get a wallplate that has two jacks, but if you happen to have a few 'in line' line splitters laying around, you can always pop them open and switch the wires on the '2nd' jack so that one jack is "blue" and the other is "orange" -- this is how I did it, since I already had the phone system set up in such a way -- whether or not your other wallplates are single or dual doesn't matter, in fact you could always just have one single "blue" wallplate in the house and have all the others hooked up to the orange pair.

*shrug* all up to you, for me this works great because 1. I keep the Vonage box, modem, etc at my desk as that's where my network begins, 2. The phone base stays where it belongs, and finally 3. I can hook satellite receivers up to the landline that won't work with Voip Wink .. and lastly, I'm using DSL so I have to have a landline somehow!

As for the whole thing about signal quality and power supplied, I wouldn't fret too much over it -- most phones today are cordless, if you're using a corded phone, you can probably have 3 or 4 of those safely, if you're using an *OLD* corded phone, I don't know that would depend on how much power it **** when ringing -- the worst that can happen is it won't ring properly and click or something silly like that..

Signal quality is another thing -- I doubt anyone living in a house, even a 10 bedroom one that's 5000 square feet, will have a problem with 'being able to hear it' -- funny but when I switched around things I realized the Vonage line sounded almost twice as loud as the landline did on the regular phone.. geez -- it was so high I had to turn the volume down.

And that's going over at least 90 feet of wire (from my desk about 30ft to the wall jack, another 30 or 40 feet to the NID, and then about 50-60 to my room and ANOTHER 10 or so to the phone..).. so that shouldn't be a big deal.

As long as you're not getting any high power feeds INTO the line pair other than the Vonage box, you'll be fine Smile
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 1:21 pm    Post subject: quesion on NIU... Reply with quote Back to top

All,
I am assuming that what I am disconnecting in the NIU is the RJ-45 plug, correct? I do have to unscrew any of the colored wires. I have isolated the line for the non-business jacks...
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