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PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2005 12:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

It almost seems like a obvious choice to offer people with broadband, since you gotta figure at least half some sort of a router already, I must for me personally is the QOS feature considering I can get into some heavy uploading.

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It took more work to get it working than a PAP2 would have taken, but I got it working. I work in IT/networking, so it wasn't too bad to get things figured out. If I would have been someone from the general public that knows little to nothing about networking I probably wouldn't have been able to get it working. It may be an obvious choice to offer people that have broadband, but I'm not a new Vonage customer. They knew I already had a router of my own, and this was sent as a replacement for a Cisco ATA device which is more similar to the PAP2 as far as size/functionality. I would have rather had the PAP2 because I don't need and probably won't use the router functionality of the RT31P2. It's also bigger/bulkier than the PAP2 and takes up more space on my desk. I guess I'm glad I got the RT31P2 though...after reading about problems people have with the PAP2. So far it seems to be working well.
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scots wrote:
It took more work to get it working than a PAP2 would have taken, but I got it working. I work in IT/networking, so it wasn't too bad to get things figured out. If I would have been someone from the general public that knows little to nothing about networking I probably wouldn't have been able to get it working. It may be an obvious choice to offer people that have broadband, but I'm not a new Vonage customer. They knew I already had a router of my own, and this was sent as a replacement for a Cisco ATA device which is more similar to the PAP2 as far as size/functionality. I would have rather had the PAP2 because I don't need and probably won't use the router functionality of the RT31P2. It's also bigger/bulkier than the PAP2 and takes up more space on my desk. I guess I'm glad I got the RT31P2 though...after reading about problems people have with the PAP2. So far it seems to be working well.
What's your setup - care to share?
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I have a D-Link DGL-4300 wireless router connected to a Motorola SB5100 cable modem (Road Runner Business Class, 5MBps). On the wired side I have 1 server, 1 PC, a Turtle Beach AudioTron, and my Vonage (previously a Cisco ATA, now a Linksys RT31P2). On the wireless side I have 2 laptops & 1 Dell Axim. I also recently got an IOgear GPSR01U wireless print server, which I've been unsuccessful at getting working so far.
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scots wrote:
I have a D-Link DGL-4300 wireless router connected to a Motorola SB5100 cable modem (Road Runner Business Class, 5MBps). On the wired side I have 1 server, 1 PC, a Turtle Beach AudioTron, and my Vonage (previously a Cisco ATA, now a Linksys RT31P2). On the wireless side I have 2 laptops & 1 Dell Axim. I also recently got an IOgear GPSR01U wireless print server, which I've been unsuccessful at getting working so far.
So it looks like you have your Vonage device AFTER your Router...and therefore you are not using the Vonage device's QoS feature.

Was there specific things relatively hard to setup in your PAP2 which a person in the general public may benefit from seeing how you did it?
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So it looks like you have your Vonage device AFTER your Router...and therefore you are not using the Vonage device's QoS feature.

Was there specific things relatively hard to setup in your PAP2 which a person in the general public may benefit from seeing how you did it?


I don't have the PAP2, I have the RT31P2. The PAP2 probably would have been easier to setup. If they would have sent me the PAP2 I should have been able to just plug it in and go. With the RT31P2 I had to do special things because it's a router and I was plugging it into a router. I had to plug a computer directly into the RT31P2 to be able to access the config pages at first. I then had to assign the RT31P2 a static IP address that matched up with the addressing scheme I was already using on my existing network. I don't use the standard 192.168.0.x scheme that most routers are set at due to problems it causes with accessing VPN where I work. That standard 192.168.0.x scheme wouldn't work with the RT31P2 anyway...I believe the RT31P2 uses something like 192.168.15.x as it's addressing scheme. I also had to enter in all the DNS info, etc. I then had to enable the remote access to configuration (or whatever they call it) so I can access the config pages of the RT31P2 without having a computer directly connected to the RT31P2. I could have put the RT31P2 first in line to the cable modem and then connected my D-Link DGL-4300 to the RT31P2, but that would have been a lot more work. I can setup QoS stuff on the DGL-4300, but I haven't done so. I haven't seen any need to do it. All my calls sound just as good to me as they do on a landline. If I start having problems with sound quality I'll consider turning on QoS stuff.
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So it looks like you have your Vonage device AFTER your Router...and therefore you are not using the Vonage device's QoS feature.

Was there specific things relatively hard to setup in your PAP2 which a person in the general public may benefit from seeing how you did it?


I don't have the PAP2, I have the RT31P2. The PAP2 probably would have been easier to setup. If they would have sent me the PAP2 I should have been able to just plug it in and go. With the RT31P2 I had to do special things because it's a router and I was plugging it into a router. I had to plug a computer directly into the RT31P2 to be able to access the config pages at first. I then had to assign the RT31P2 a static IP address that matched up with the addressing scheme I was already using on my existing network. I don't use the standard 192.168.0.1 that most routers are set at due to problems it causes with accessing the VPN at work. That standard 192.168.0.x scheme wouldn't work with the RT31P2 anyway...I believe the RT31P2 uses something like 192.168.15.x as it's addressing scheme. I also had to enter in all the DNS info, etc. I then had to enable the remote access to configuration (or whatever they call it) so I can access the config pages of the RT31P2 without having a computer directly connected to the RT31P2. I could have put the RT31P2 first in line to the cable modem and then connected my D-Link DGL-4300 to the RT31P2, but that would have been a lot more work. I can setup QoS stuff on the DGL-4300, but I haven't done so. I haven't seen any need to do it. All my calls sound just as good to me as they do on a landline. If I start having problems with sound quality I'll consider turning on QoS stuff.
Next step for me is move my RT31P2 AFTER my DI624 Router. I was only planning on turning off DHCP, then plug the RT's WAN port (internet port) to one of the ports on my router...wouldn't this work? I do not use VPN by the way.

I assume the RT31P2 will pick up a WAN IP as one of the IP's assigned by my router (something like 192.168.1.1xx). Sounds like I am missing something...like the RT31P2 only liking 192.168.15.x ? Are you saying I can FORCE the RT to have a static IP of say 192.168.1.145 ?

OK , what is the DNS info I need to set the RT to? Is it the DNS server for Comcast (basically, I would be getting this info off my DI624 router) ?

Thanks in advance for your ideas.
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Next step for me is move my RT31P2 AFTER my DI624 Router. I was only planning on turning off DHCP, then plug the RT's WAN port (internet port) to one of the ports on my router...wouldn't this work? I do not use VPN by the way.

I assume the RT31P2 will pick up a WAN IP as one of the IP's assigned by my router (something like 192.168.1.1xx). Sounds like I am missing something...like the RT31P2 only liking 192.168.15.x ? Are you saying I can FORCE the RT to have a static IP of say 192.168.1.145 ?

OK , what is the DNS info I need to set the RT to? Is it the DNS server for Comcast (basically, I would be getting this info off my DI624 router) ?

Thanks in advance for your ideas.



If your not going to have any computers behing the RT router then turning of the DHCP and changing the 192.168.15.1 addy is not an issue, although it is always a good idea to turn off and extra DHCP servers so you might as well. Do Not turn off your DI-624 DCHP server. Also keep in mind if you have MAC filtering on it will filter out the RT.


Second, Give the WAN port on your RT a static IP address (this is important because you may have to foward ports to the RT and you dont want the IP address changing on you, plus its a good idea in general especially for routers) this is done by chnging the "Internet Connection type" to Static IP and give it an IP that matches those on you DI-634 which I believe is 192.168.1.x. The DNS and the Gateway is the address of your DI-624 something like 192.168.1.1
The 192.168.15.1 address In network setup is not an issue becacuse that would only affect computers behind the RT

then give it a minute to initiate, wont be instant

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You can set the RT31P2 to have any static IP address you'd like. It's on the first page as soon you go into the setup of the RT31P2 (I think...I'm not at home right now, so I can't look at it). There's a drop-down menu, change it to static IP. You'll then have to enter the address you want it to have along with DNS info, etc. You have to set it to static IP if you're going to put it behind another router or it won't work. I made mine x.x.x.200 so it would be well out of range of any DHCP address that might be assigned. If it gets a WAN IP that's automatically assigned by your DI-624 it will NOT work...at least it didn't for me with the DGL-4300. Also, if you want to be able to have access to the config pages of the RT31P2 from a PC that's connecting through your DI-624 rather than directly connected to the RT31P2 you'll have to enable the remote access to config. If accessing the config from a PC that's connecting through the DI-624, you'd get to the config by going to x.x.x.x:8080, where x.x.x.x is the static IP address you assign to the RT31P2. The DNS info you need to enter is the Comcast DNS info.
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Also, if you want to be able to have access to the config pages of the RT31P2 from a PC that's connecting through your DI-624 rather than directly connected to the RT31P2 you'll have to enable the remote access to config.


Good reason to put the RT out front.
For that you would:
Turn DHCP off on RT > Internet conection type Obtain an IP automatic > DI-624 to RT, Port to WAN > Set DI-624 to static IP > Gateway and DNS to the address of the RT (192.168.15.1 or what ever you want), leave the DHCP on an bam, in business


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The DNS info you need to enter is the Comcast DNS info.


I hear this over and over. If you are behind a router you use the router as your DNS, part of the responsibility of a router is to retrieve that info from the server at your ISP. If you call your ISP asking for their DNS server address, they right answer they should tell you is set your DHCP to automatic, which is what your DI-624 is already doing, you almost Never need to know the addresses of your ISPs DNS servers.

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