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PostPosted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 5:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

I looked at several more of their phones. They even have soem digital ones that seem to have bigger buttons too.
BT, has anyone tried them out? If so, how is the clarity?
Would appreciate any input anyone has about this brand of phone.
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Here is a link to a large cordless phone from the UK
http://www.netelectrics.biz/product.asp?ProdID=1426&CtgID=1023
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 6:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Yes, I saw and posted back but I think the post went to you instead of to seattlezoid. Can't quite figure out to whom I am replying yet.
I have been over there looking at all those phones. I found a digital cordless on that site too that has big buttons. Thanx again to Seattlezoid for pointing me there. I have sent their CS an email with a few questions. Hopefully they will get back to me soon.
I am pretty dumb when it comes to these cordless phones and I thoght we were supposed to get a 5.8 digital to work with Vonage.
I talked on the phone with office depot here, who also, according to the sales rep to whom I spoke, sells Vonage, and they said that 5.8 digital would be my best bet as for clarity and range both.
Any comments?
Thanx,
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Donna,

Did you see this post from seattlezoid?

He wrote:
"Here is a link to a large cordless phone from the UK
http://www.netelectrics.biz/product.asp?ProdID=1426&CtgID=1023
Is this what you are looking for?"


That cordless phone looks great, and cheap.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 6:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Does this one have a speaker phone? What is SIM card? Is that the same thing as speaker? I would want a speakerphone, wouldn't I?
http://www.netelectrics.biz/product.asp?ProdID=3669

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Yes, I saw and posted back but I think the post went to you instead of to seattlezoid. Can't quite figure out to whom I am replying yet.
I have been over there looking at all those phones. I found a digital cordless on that site too that has big buttons. Thanx again to Seattlezoid for pointing me there. I have sent their CS an email with a few questions. Hopefully they will get back to me soon.
I am pretty dumb when it comes to these cordless phones and I thoght we were supposed to get a 5.8 digital to work with Vonage.
I talked on the phone with office depot here, who also, according to the sales rep to whom I spoke, sells Vonage, and they said that 5.8 digital would be my best bet as for clarity and range both.
Any comments?
Thanx,
Donna

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Donna,

Did you see this post from seattlezoid?

He wrote:
"Here is a link to a large cordless phone from the UK
http://www.netelectrics.biz/product.asp?ProdID=1426&CtgID=1023
Is this what you are looking for?"


That cordless phone looks great, and cheap.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 6:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top


Donna,

There are a lot of varying opinions about what phones work best with Vonage.

If you use a wireless router, which I think you do not, then some would say not to get a 2.4 ghz cordless phone, because that is the same frequency used by the wireless access point. Also, microwave ovens can interfere with 2.4 ghz signals. I think a 2.4 ghz phone would be fine -- perhaps great -- for you. I use a couple with my Vonage (even with a wireless access point) and get crystal clear calls.

The 5.4 ghz cordless phones are usually more expensive than the 2.4 ghz phones and presumably avoid conflicts with in the 2.4 ghz range. Actually, they reduce the potential conflicts, but it is a myth that they eliminate it. The 5.4 ghz phones still use the 2.4 ghz band for one of the directions of communication, so they are really not much better than the 2.4 ghz ones in terms of potential interference. What does make them better is that they do have a wider range, and they are a little less susceptible to interference from microwave ovens. I have five 5.4 ghz handsets that I use with my regular landline phone service, and they work great -- but I don't think they are any better than the 2.4 ghz phones I use with Vonage.

The cheapest cordless phones are generally the 900 mhz ones. In this case, they should work fine, because they are not in the range of wireless access frequencies or microwave frequencies. They do have a somewhat shorter range -- but can probably reach every room in your house, unless you live in a big old castle.

The absolutely cheapest phones are the corded phones, which sell in the range of $10-$50, with an average one costing probably $20. They will work great with Vonage, but they are less portable. Even though they are not wireless, they can get some interference if you have the cables too close to power cords.

My advice is buy the phone that you think will meet your other needs best and will be easiest to use in terms of seeing the keys. Even the cheapest phones are pretty good these days.

The big-key cordless phone that seattlzoid found looks like a very good one to me -- and it is about as cheap as you'll find anywhere. You wouldn't be taking much of a risk to try that one unless the shipping costs are high.

When all is said and done, choosing a telephone is a very personal choice. Two people can use the same phone with Vonage and disagree wildly about whether it is good or bad. All you can do is try one and see if you like it.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 7:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

I don't mind paying up to about $150 - $200 for a good digital cordless phone.
I would rather pay more for a good one than a little for one that gives me problems. The main things I think I would want are:

1.) Digital
2.) Cordless
3.) 5.8 ghz (I had problems with the 2.4 Vtech)
4.) Large numbers as possible
5.) Base set wtih key pad speaker capability
6.) One handset with speaker phone for another room
8.) Work with two different phone numbers. Like Vonage in base and my regular number in the handset (Is this possible)
7.) Caller ID
8.) Call Waiting
9.) Will work with Vonage
10.) good clarity without a lot of noise in the background.

I have yet to find out if it is the phone or the Vonage line that was messing up with the 2.4 Vtech I tried. But....when I tried the uniden it never had as much noise but kept cutting me off in the middle of calls. Is that the phone or Vonage doing that? And sometimes it would not put a call thorugh. I kept getting busy signal.

As for intercom, baby monitoring 5 way conferencing, that stuff I don't need. I just need a good digital cordless with the things I mentioned above.
I saw Pansonic has one with a talking Caller ID. I don't need that either.

Thanx,
Donna




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Donna,

There are a lot of varying opinions about what phones work best with Vonage.

If you use a wireless router, which I think you do not, then some would say not to get a 2.4 ghz cordless phone, because that is the same frequency used by the wireless access point. Also, microwave ovens can interfere with 2.4 ghz signals. I think a 2.4 ghz phone would be fine -- perhaps great -- for you. I use a couple with my Vonage (even with a wireless access point) and get crystal clear calls.

The 5.4 ghz cordless phones are usually more expensive than the 2.4 ghz phones and presumably avoid conflicts with in the 2.4 ghz range. Actually, they reduce the potential conflicts, but it is a myth that they eliminate it. The 5.4 ghz phones still use the 2.4 ghz band for one of the directions of communication, so they are really not much better than the 2.4 ghz ones in terms of potential interference. What does make them better is that they do have a wider range, and they are a little less susceptible to interference from microwave ovens. I have five 5.4 ghz handsets that I use with my regular landline phone service, and they work great -- but I don't think they are any better than the 2.4 ghz phones I use with Vonage.

The cheapest cordless phones are generally the 900 mhz ones. In this case, they should work fine, because they are not in the range of wireless access frequencies or microwave frequencies. They do have a somewhat shorter range -- but can probably reach every room in your house, unless you live in a big old castle.

The absolutely cheapest phones are the corded phones, which sell in the range of $10-$50, with an average one costing probably $20. They will work great with Vonage, but they are less portable. Even though they are not wireless, they can get some interference if you have the cables too close to power cords.

My advice is buy the phone that you think will meet your other needs best and will be easiest to use in terms of seeing the keys. Even the cheapest phones are pretty good these days.

The big-key cordless phone that seattlzoid found looks like a very good one to me -- and it is about as cheap as you'll find anywhere. You wouldn't be taking much of a risk to try that one unless the shipping costs are high.

When all is said and done, choosing a telephone is a very personal choice. Two people can use the same phone with Vonage and disagree wildly about whether it is good or bad. All you can do is try one and see if you like it.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 7:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top


Donna,

You said,
"I have yet to find out if it is the phone or the Vonage line that was messing up with the 2.4 Vtech I tried. But....when I tried the uniden it never had as much noise but kept cutting me off in the middle of calls. Is that the phone or Vonage doing that? And sometimes it would not put a call thorugh. I kept getting busy signal. "


VTech is a spinoff of AT&T and actually makes pretty good phones. I've owned several and liked them all. I don't think the VTech phone was your problem.

The "cutting off in the middle of calls" is usually a bandwidth problem with your ISP or a faulty modem or a conflict with running other bandwidth-draining computer programs while on a phone call. In your case, I'd bet it was either the ISP or the modem at fault.

When you got a "busy signal," that was probably Vonage's fault downstream of you -- or the fault of one of the phone services with which it partners. That doesn't happen often (never happened to me), but it apparently does happen to some people who have posted here. I think that's just a problem with a new and changing technology and a company struggling to keep up with customer demand beyond its wildest dreams. Those things will get better over time -- but the service is cheap, and you get what you pay for.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 8:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Thanks, need to know this:
When I get my new phone, do I undo everything on my phone adapter and cable modem and start from scratch again or do I just plug in my phone?
My son-n-law and daughter just came by about 30 minutes ago. They got the last one I had purchased and are taking it back and getting me another one. He said they had a Pansonic there that had farily large numbers so I assume that is the one he will get me.
I told my son-n-law the only thing that worried me about it was the answereing machine. I have heard they don't work with Vonage but then the man at office depot told him that they can be turned off. So...I will soon know what he got me. They should be here shortly with it.
I think he said it was a $144 and then $25 extra for coverage if it is dropped or something.
I am also going to order that one at netelectrics.com that had the large numbers. Well, I am if the shipping is not too much anyway.
I don't understand what SIM CARD and text messaging on a phone would be. I have heard people talk about it but I have never had a cordless or a cell. Never had a need for either one.
I will let you know how my phone works as soon as I get it hooked up and if anyone can get back with me and let me know what to do about setting this phone up, I would apprecaite it.
Thanks,
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Donna,

You said,
"I have yet to find out if it is the phone or the Vonage line that was messing up with the 2.4 Vtech I tried. But....when I tried the uniden it never had as much noise but kept cutting me off in the middle of calls. Is that the phone or Vonage doing that? And sometimes it would not put a call thorugh. I kept getting busy signal. "


VTech is a spinoff of AT&T and actually makes pretty good phones. I've owned several and liked them all. I don't think the VTech phone was your problem.

The "cutting off in the middle of calls" is usually a bandwidth problem with your ISP or a faulty modem or a conflict with running other bandwidth-draining computer programs while on a phone call. In your case, I'd bet it was either the ISP or the modem at fault.

When you got a "busy signal," that was probably Vonage's fault downstream of you -- or the fault of one of the phone services with which it partners. That doesn't happen often (never happened to me), but it apparently does happen to some people who have posted here. I think that's just a problem with a new and changing technology and a company struggling to keep up with customer demand beyond its wildest dreams. Those things will get better over time -- but the service is cheap, and you get what you pay for.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 12, 2005 9:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Donna,

All you need to do is plug the new panasonic phone's power cord into a power source and plug its telephone cable into port #1 on the back of your Vonage adapter. You don't need to change anything else in the setup. So you should be up and making/receiving calls on your Vonage in under three minutes.

You should also log into your account on the Vonage web site and set your voice mail to pick up in 15 seconds. That will prevent unanswered calls from being picked up first by the panasonic phone's answering machine. You can make the Vonage setting longer than 15 seconds, but you'll need to make sure the answering machine on the panasonic turned off or is set to pick up at the maximum number of rings it allows. I'm not familiar with that phone, so you'll need to read the manual to see how to do it.

Of course, you'll also want to program the speed dialing numbers on your new phone, but that has nothing to do with Vonage -- except that you should use 11-digit numbers for everything, beginning with 1+ Area Code and then the number.

Let us know if you like your new panasonic.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 13, 2005 4:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Don't know if I am going to like it or not. Here is a pic of it. It has much to many features. If I can find one within 14 days that is a lot like it but don't have the talking ID, answering machine, etc., I will send this one back. I like the buttons on this one. I can see them by just squinting my eyes. No more magnifying glass.
Here is the one I got. He said it had the biggest buttons and I could trun the answering machine off.
http://www.customart.biz/phone.htm
If anyone reading this has this one, let me know how you like it.
Wonder can I turn the Caller ID off to where I can see who calls but don't have to listen to it?
Well, I guess eventually I will learn all this stuff by trial and error.

Later, Donna


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Donna,

All you need to do is plug the new panasonic phone's power cord into a power source and plug its telephone cable into port #1 on the back of your Vonage adapter. You don't need to change anything else in the setup. So you should be up and making/receiving calls on your Vonage in under three minutes.

You should also log into your account on the Vonage web site and set your voice mail to pick up in 15 seconds. That will prevent unanswered calls from being picked up first by the panasonic phone's answering machine. You can make the Vonage setting longer than 15 seconds, but you'll need to make sure the answering machine on the panasonic turned off or is set to pick up at the maximum number of rings it allows. I'm not familiar with that phone, so you'll need to read the manual to see how to do it.

Of course, you'll also want to program the speed dialing numbers on your new phone, but that has nothing to do with Vonage -- except that you should use 11-digit numbers for everything, beginning with 1+ Area Code and then the number.

Let us know if you like your new panasonic.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 13, 2005 1:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

At the risk of derailing things a little...

Donna said:

"Thanks to all of you. I appreciate the large writing. It makes it easy for me to read. Yes, I am practically blind. But I can do just about anything on a computer and on the web as long as Cascading style sheets are not used. You can't enlarge fonts when those are used."


Donna, you might want to consider using a different browser, as not all browsers have this limitation in handling CSS. I can't speak to the likes of Opera, but Firefox will enlarge all fonts on a page if you tell it to, regardless of style sheets. It takes the view that they're fine, but they're really only there to specify relative font sizes rather than be absolute.

If you're comfortable with installing new software (it definitely sounds like you're up to it), you might want to give it a look:

http://www.mozilla.org/

Sorry about the size of the link - the url and size tags don't play nice together. Smile

I also think Opera does scaling more intelligently than IE, but it's been a while since I used that so my memory might be wrong. Smile

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