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PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2005 11:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

How are the lines configured in your distribution box then. There has to be some way to "connect" a given house circuit to a specific connection point.

You will need to configure the circuits in the distribution box to connect the circuit in parallel.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2005 12:55 pm    Post subject: Wiring Reply with quote Back to top

Is there anyway possible to do this in a High Rise Appartment situation.. I live in an appartment building.. and I would like to know if its possible to connect the Vonage addpter to the phone jacks around the apartment
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2005 7:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

I'm laughing as I'm reading these comments about circuits, etc. You would swear people were building rockets. It is interesting calling a copper wire a circuit.

It is not that difficult. When your Bell line was connected to your house, all of your phones were connected to Bell. How come when you disconnect your Bell line, all of a sudden none of your jacks are connected anymore? That does not make sense. Disconnecting Bell should not disconnect service to all of your phone jacks. Provided that these jacks are all connected together SOMEWHERE in your house, you should be able to plug your Vonage adapter into one of the jacks, which would therefore supply phone service to all of your other telephones on the other jacks in your home. If this does not work, then you must have pulled the wires out of the demarcation box. Electricity will flow through any wires that are connected together. So long as your jacks are all still connected together, you should be fine.

I am not understanding how all of your jacks have been suddenly disconnected just because you've removed Bell. If you had several different phone numbers and every jack in your house was connected to a separate line, I could understand this better.

djino: You just gave away the fact that you are French because you spelled apartment the French way - Appartment.

Different apartments are wired differently. I lived in an apartment in the early 1990sa and every single telephone line in the entire building ran through the walls of each apartment. If I removed the jack from my wall, I could see a thick bolt of wires running behind my phone jack. If your apartment is wired like this - you can forget about disconnecting your land line. You would end up having to go with Cordless Phones. You could buy a splitter that would give you one wired phone, and then connect a series of cordless phones to that. This really depends on how the wiring was done in your apartment. In most cases, it is not possible to get your Vonage line working through all of your apartment jacks because you would have no way of disconnecting the Bell/Telus/Primus/Sprint, etc. line.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 11:40 am    Post subject: Aoartment or Appartment Reply with quote Back to top

LMAO.. ROFL. hhahahahha..

I guess I should run spell check before submitting Smile (Or maybe I should just write everything in french?)

I guess that makes you french too.. well duhhh.. you live dans Aylmer...tabarnac)
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 6:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Moondoggz wrote:
Well if you used cables with a FT6 fire rating on the jacket, you could run the cables through the air ducts in the house.



For residential housing, I don't think you need FT6 cabling. But you better check with your local inspector.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 7:38 pm    Post subject: I come for assistance, but get ignorant ridicule Reply with quote Back to top

Laugh away in your ignorance, DarKev ... there's a difference between being hooked up to a switch box or being set up in parallel. Consider yourself lucky your place was obviously all parallel.

Here is what I did: My ``Bell'' line was connected to a box with four posts. I removed the ``Bell'' wires and did nothing else.

Then I plug the line from my adapter into the wall jack. Nothing.

The house was severely renovated before I bought it. Several of the lines from the box go to two different jacks, although there were only three actual phones hooked up.

So if it's so easy for you, DarKev, please tell me how to fix this. I think tschultz was right, but until I have the time/desire/ability to rewire the connection box into an all-parallel arrangement, I've gone cordless.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 7:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Haha! Razz

I would have to look at your wiring to know for sure how to fix this. The simplist thing to do is trace the wires as much as possible in your basement to find out which ones are traveling to the other floors of your house. Once you have isolated all of those wires, hook them all together. Once they are hooked together, any jack you plug Vonage into will give you instant access to your Vonage phone line from any jack.

One reason I can think of as to why your house is wired like this is that it is possible there could have been an alarm system hooked up at one time. Alarm systems typically intercept your telephone jacks so that an intruder to your home could not pick up the receiver of any phone and render the alarm system useless. If it is not an alarm system, then it could have been someone who did not know what they were doing who hooked this up. It still does not explain why your phones do not work now with Vonage after removing the Bell wire. If that Bell wire had all of the phones in your house working at one time, then all of those phones jacks should be connected together. How else would the Bell line have supplied telephone service to all of your jacks if they were not all connected? I think that you may have cut a wrong wire. It may not have been the Bell wire that you cut. Just a wire that disconnected all of your jacks.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 8:23 pm    Post subject: Don't think so Reply with quote Back to top

I'm sure that only wire I removed was big heavy one that came through the basement wall to the switch box. Interesting thing is that when I run a wire from the adapter to a jack that is hooked up parallel to another jack, that jack works. But the other lines that come from the switch box (non-parallel) don't.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 8:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

They can't be connected. You need to find a way to connect them all together.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 06, 2005 9:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

You can do what some are saying here and also, if you'd like to play around with your internal wiring so you can keep Bell's copper connected to the entry point to your house you can do the following:

Phone service only needs 2 copper wires, the RJ11 phone line running in your house has 4, why 4? to be able to run another service like DSL, or do like I'll be doing; keeping Bell's connection for my alarm and fax, and use Vonage everywhere else for voice.
So you basically have to open your wall mounted jack, check which 2 wires are Bell, unscrew the others and connect them to another jack.
Connect your Vonage line coming from the phone adapter/router to this jack.
Separate Bell's 2 wires from vonage's 2wires on every jack that has a phone/fax/etc connected to it so that both service providers don't overlap.
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