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PostPosted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 9:13 pm    Post subject: Vonage app on my iphone? Reply with quote Back to top

Hopefully like Skype, Vonage will have an app for the iphone!
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 8:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

This is from a month ago but it looks promising:

Apple approves Vonage's iPhone app
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 2:34 am    Post subject: iPhone App Reply with quote Back to top

The iPhone app is kinda lame. If you don't spend a certain amount on international calls, then you have to pay $0.35/month. That is so stupid. Skype remains free on iPhone. Come on Vonage, this is a fail!! Voip over wifi for iPhone should be totally free and ad free. Don't even get me started on iCall, it's worst! I don't have Vonage home service, so that's my only complaint with the iPhone app!
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 12:28 am    Post subject: Re: Vonage app on my iphone? Reply with quote Back to top

phone2008 wrote:
Hopefully like Skype, Vonage will have an app for the iphone!


There is no need to have a Vonage app in your iphone to call through Vonage. You can install a DialMate CM1003 (see www.woodtel.com) on your Vonage line at home and make calls through Vonage using your regular cellular network. Your phone need not be a smart phone, just a regular cell phone.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 1:44 pm    Post subject: Re: Vonage app on my iphone? Reply with quote Back to top

Edilbert wrote:
You can install a DialMate CM1003 (see www.woodtel.com) on your Vonage line at home and make calls through Vonage using your regular cellular network.


What a stupid idea. Why not just buy a one of the Linksys ATA products that will do the same thing for 20% of the price? And how does this help when Vonage customers are outside of the country? With an iphone/ipod touch you can find a wifi hotspot and use an app to dial out. On the other hand, if you brought your cell phone with you, you can call the strange Dialmate device from Yemen for about a buck a minute.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 2:39 am    Post subject: Re: Vonage app on my iphone? Reply with quote Back to top

toolio wrote:
Edilbert wrote:
You can install a DialMate CM1003 (see www.woodtel.com) on your Vonage line at home and make calls through Vonage using your regular cellular network.


What a stupid idea. Why not just buy a one of the Linksys ATA products that will do the same thing for 20% of the price? And how does this help when Vonage customers are outside of the country? With an iphone/ipod touch you can find a wifi hotspot and use an app to dial out. On the other hand, if you brought your cell phone with you, you can call the strange Dialmate device from Yemen for about a buck a minute.


Dear Mr. Toolio,

I am sorry I did not explain in detail my post to this forum. I thought the link to WoodTel’s web site was enough. I hope the following article will clarify everything:

‘How To Extend Vonage World® To Your Cell Phone

Recent release of Vonage Mobile® application on the iPhone and Blackberry has caused a lot of excitement among bloggers, iPhone and Blackberry users and the news media. What is little known to everybody is that with the installation of a small hardware on the Vonage World® line, Vonage Mobile® becomes obsolete. Everybody was waiting for a Vonage World® version that would work on their cell phones. What we got was just a cheaper calling card that works only on an expensive smart phone - the iPhone or the Blackberry. Using an iPhone, we have a choice of operating it on WiFi or regular cellular network. With the Blackberry, we can only use the regular cellular network. When we run it directly on a cellular network, we use cellular minutes (air time, Vonage Mobile, and possibly roaming charges). When we choose to go with WiFi we have to seek out hotspots, which are not readily available, especially when we are on the move. It is also inconvenient that we must anticipate and prepay for these services. There is no need for any of these if you already have a Vonage World® account. You can extend your Vonage World® line to any cell phone now. Here’s how:

First, Slash Your Monthly Bill and Get Free Unlimited Air Time

You subscribe to a cellular plan which has either free incoming calls or free calls to and from favorite numbers. You designate your Vonage® number as a favorite number. This gives you free unlimited air time calling to and from that number. Even as heavy cell phone users, you can sign up for the minimum $49 per month plan and slash your monthly bill by half and still make free unlimited air time and long distance calls.

Then, Access and Call Out From Your Vonage World® Line

To illustrate how Vonage World® can be accessed manually by any cell phone user using the regular cellular network, let’s say you have somebody (your wife) at home where your Vonage World line is installed. You call your Vonage® line (or have your wife call you from the Vonage® line), your wife answers and you tell her to transfer the call to another number which could be domestic (all USA and Canadian numbers located anywhere in the world are transferable) or international (some countries like India, China, Malaysia are transferable). Your wife will tap the hook switch (flash), put you on hold and get another dial tone. She then dials “#90” (to tell Vonage® it is a transfer call), the country code, city code and the telephone number. Vonage® will automatically transfer the call to connect you directly to the destination number. Vonage® will send your wife a stutter dial tone and a long dial tone to signal her to hang up and free up the Vonage® line. Your son (friend, employee, etc.), using their own cell phone, can repeat the process and be connected to their destination number at the same time you are using the system. Of course it is not practical for your wife to do all these things for you even if you are saving a bundle. What you can do is install a telecommunication switch such as the DialMate CM1003 (see www.woodtel.com) on your Vonage® line and have it perform all these functions for you. With this combination you can place the cheapest domestic and international calls from your cell phone. As an added bonus, the people you call in those 60 flat-rate-calling-countries can also use your Vonage World® line to call those 60 countries for free and most importantly, using just an ordinary cell phone or landline, without a broadband connection. Replacing your sim card with a local one when traveling to those flat-rate countries that include free cell phone calling gives you the same valuable benefit.’

Let’s analyze more closely the Vonage World® and DialMate CM1003 features that interact together to save families, friends, businesses, associations, etc. a lot of money.
1. Call Return, Call Back, Three-Way Calling and Call Transfer – You can program ‘*69, pause, 1’ as the call back number and have everybody with a USA/Canadian number located anywhere in the world call the 60 countries. All these guys have to do is call the unit, ring it twice and hang up and they will get a return call. Once connected, they enter the PIN and their destination number and they will be able to talk to their families, friends, associates, etc. in those 60 countries for free using Vonage’s Three-Way Calling or Call Transfer feature on the fly.
2. Call Bridge – If the users have free air time and long distance (USA/Canada) calling, they can just call the unit directly and bridge their call similarly as in 1.
3. Call Back – When 2 is used, that means a number in any of the 60 countries can be programmed as the call back number. This is what I meant when I said the account can also be shared with people residing in those 60 countries.
4. Call Back – For those traveling to those 60 countries, especially countries where Vonage cell phone calling is free, get a local sim card and program the number as the call back number.

For those who have smart phones, do not despair. You can download Skype, find a hot spot do call back and call the 60 countries without using Skype minutes, which is much better than Mr. Toolio’s suggestion.

Now, the next question is will this system disrupt Vonage? I don’t think so. As a matter of fact, I think they should even encourage it. They should just drop Vonage Mobile® and concentrate on Vonage World®.
This is their best shot in expanding their business in the two most populated countries in the world, China and India. In no time they will overtake Skype and become the number one telephone company in the world.

My last questions are for Mr. Toolio. Can your idea of using only a Linksys ATA installed with a single line (I am emphasizing single line because if you will use two lines, an extra line will be a perpetual expense that will exceed the price of the CM1003) Vonage World® duplicate the above? If it does, please explain how it will do Call Back, Call Transfer and Three-way Calling automatically by itself. And finally, do you still think this is a stupid idea?

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 5:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

I have no intention of answering your questions because you are trying to sell a product on a public forum. Most forums do not allow sales or product promotion postings. I suspect this one should not either.

I will say, however, that almost everything you describe can be done using a much cheaper ATA device. If a second Voip line is required it is not difficult to find a free North American DID or a cheap monthly DID from a reputable provider. It can be anywhere in north america for those who have Vonage unlimited north american calling.

Do it this way and you can easily put together a system that will work from anywhere in the world, not just from the U.S.

Why did I call yours a stupid idea? Because it is expensive and you seem to be promoting it to make a profit for yourself.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 4:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

toolio wrote:
I have no intention of answering your questions because you are trying to sell a product on a public forum. Most forums do not allow sales or product promotion postings. I suspect this one should not either.

I will say, however, that almost everything you describe can be done using a much cheaper ATA device. If a second Voip line is required it is not difficult to find a free North American DID or a cheap monthly DID from a reputable provider. It can be anywhere in north america for those who have Vonage unlimited north american calling.

Do it this way and you can easily put together a system that will work from anywhere in the world, not just from the U.S.

Why did I call yours a stupid idea? Because it is expensive and you seem to be promoting it to make a profit for yourself.



That is a lame excuse. You made a claim and now you cannot prove it. No matter how cheap you can get a DID it is still a perpetual expense plus the cost of your ATA. Not only that, please explain how you are going to configure your ATA with Vonage which is proprietary. You will have to hack Vonage which is illegal and definitely the stupid thing to do. And even if you are initially successful, how would you handle ever changing Vonage proxies and passwords? Also, see if you can pass through DTMF through your cell phone and two Voip lines in series reliably all the time. Apparently you have no experience on the subject.
Being the only way my post would be understood (and still you did not) I had to mention the product because it is the only switch that can extend a single Vonage World line to an ordinary cell phone or land line located in the 60 flat-rate countries (I did not say only in the USA), without a data connection and without using any long
distance, cellular or app minutes. And all I am asking from you is name one ATA that can do that.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 2:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Anyone use this app? How's the call quality over 3g and wifi? Decent? Thanks much!
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 24, 2010 1:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Call quality varies but is mostly acceptable. Generally the best calls are made over a fast wifi connection. Sometimes the Vonage Facebook app works better, but not always. Still the price is right and it has worked where Skype was blocked.
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