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PostPosted: Thu Jan 20, 2005 7:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

please tell us how you fix it, when you do. I expect that I'll run into this problem when I get Vonage set-up.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 20, 2005 8:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

why?

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 21, 2005 9:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Well, last night when I got home I moved the Linksys back to be first inline and connected my D-Link up. I had to reboot a few times (probably due to the fact the Verizon FIOS uses PPPoE -uggg) and when everything came up, well, everything came up. I can't explain it but all was well including the outgoing email. I did NOTHING (other than reconfiging for PPPoE) except reboot a few times.

So I am at a loss to let anyone no why. It still seems to me that port 25 was somehow blocked but I made no changes to any routing parameters, ports, MTU size, filtering, etc. Sorry to close the discussion this way but at least it works. Very Happy

Maybe I need to rethink Linksys being more stable than D-Link Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 21, 2005 10:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Actually there was one thing that I did differently. Someone at work told me that their Linksys router instructions said that you MUST connect the chained router (the D-Link in my case) off of port 1. I saw no such instruction with the RT31PT. Also I don't see how an uplinked router could affect the outbound traffic on the Linksys since in both cases I was direct connected to the Linksys Ethernet ports, not the uplinked device.

Just thought I'd mention it.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 22, 2005 1:27 pm    Post subject: Back again Reply with quote Back to top

Ok, I don't know if anyone is even going to see this since I said it was closed but the problem is back. And I am even MORE at a loss to figure this out. Port 25 is not blocked - I can telnet port 25 on the mail server. I can send mail which is why I thought it was working fine. What I can't do is send mail with attachments. So I once again switched routers back making the D-Link first and out goes the email with the attachment.

At this point I am thinking I will just leave the Vonage router behind the D-Link. It seems to work fine there and I am getting really frustated trying to fix it the other way. If anyone has any ideas why this would happen I would love to figure it out but if not I think I will just leave well enough alone.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 22, 2005 1:47 pm    Post subject: HA - FIXED!!! Reply with quote Back to top

Ok, folks -it is fixed! I did a bit of searching on the net and found that Linksys routers have a nasty habit of not allowing attachments to go thru if you leave the default setting on MTU. If you change the MTU size to 1492 it works.

I must say I don't understand why that would fix it as I thought the default size was 1500 and as long as the MTU was larger (i.e. not truncating frames) it seems like it should work. But I'll take the old saying of "I don't explain it, I just fix it".

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 28, 2005 1:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

I have the same problem except I have my linksys phone adatper connected through another linksys router which is then connected to my cable modem. The one computer that is connected tot he phone adapter linksys cannot send email. Actually it can but it times out usually. If you leave it alone, it will eventually succeed.

I'm not sure what you mean about he MTU least of all know what an MTU is. Were you sending emails with attachments or does this affect all emails even without attachments?

My solution is to physically move the phone adapter to where my other linksys is located so the one computer can connect directly to the first linksys. Unfortunately, that means disconnecting my kids from the network or getting an 8-port switch. Oh the price of progress.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 28, 2005 2:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

he specifically said in the 2 posts directly above yours that it was email with attachments.
the mtu size can be adjusted in the router's setup which is located by default at http://192.168.15.1
it's on the main page below host name and domain name.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 28, 2005 2:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

sorry. I missed the part about attachments in the first one. I am having this problem for all emails.

Like I said, I get a timeout trying to send the email. Eventually it will get sent if I keep the id logged onto windows and Outlook Express running. OE will keep trying to send it and it eventually goes.

Could this be the same problem? I'll try setting the MTU to see if it helps.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 28, 2005 3:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

MTUs are the packet payload - a bit technical but each time you transmit data it is sent out in packets which in the IP world are variable in size. MTU then is the Maximum Transmission Unit.

While this applies to attachments it would also affect HTML mail with images in it (this actually is an attachement - most people don't know that) or very long letters which excede the 1492 packet size.

As I found out though, the reason this was an issue for me is that I am on PPPoE (DSL and Verizon FIOS (fiber) both use it). But go ahead and change it (shouldn't hurt anything if that's not it). As Reebok said it is in the setup - simply check (uncheck? can't remember) the box and try that.
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