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PostPosted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 4:23 pm    Post subject: Help requested: Verizon dry loop dsl + Vonage + Alarm Reply with quote Back to top

Hi.

I asked the question is the alarm forum and got some great advice but I am still not clear what to do. I was advised to post here since it involves more than alarm..

I have:

1. Verizon Dry loop DSL
2. Vonage
3. Wireless network
4. Alarm system in the basement connected to the landline that was previously Verizon.

I need help with:

1. How to hook up the alarm system
2. How to send the dial tone to all jacks
3. How to make that dial tone work with my dish network recievers

The NIB looks like this



As you can see I do not have a telephone cable plugged in. I open the plastic door at the top and I see this:



Sorry about the lack of focus... The blue white pair is connected to the screws and when I open the door, DSL connection in the house goes away.

These are the other free twisted pairs



The blue CAT5 cable comes from inside the house.

The other end goes into the block and the alarm panel and looks like this:



My alarm company says:

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There should be a phone block next to your alarm panel. If you take the cover off you will see where the phone line from outside hooks to the block. it will probably be a blue/white pair. Take a phone cord from the Vonage unit that is labeled phone 1 and tie the green and red to the phone block where the outside phone line tied to. You will have to cut the plug off one side of the phone cord to do that. Thats it.


How do I accomplish this? Do I take my DSL modem, Vonage adapter and wireless modem to the basement and hook them up there? How? Don't I need my PC for Vonage to work?

In the alarm forum post Mr. Dave Levenson has been advising me. Thanks Dave. I am fairly technically inclined, but the discussions about rewiring the NIB and the phone jacks are just going over my head.

Dave & other experts, can you please help me step by step?

Thanks!
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 5:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Ok

I'll try to be a little more awake this time.

1st another pic of the full distribution block might make this a little easier, but otherwise, I'll try to give you the general idea. The alarm company has added another modular plug to connect to their phone systems, that's in your last picture.

2nd For now ignore the quote from the Alarm company. It isn't going to apply much to what you are trying to do.

Now, to all the jacks in your house, you will have multiple wires. Your distibution block appears to have more of the Cat 5 wire which would give you 4 twisted pair. Probably is worth pulling of a jack somewhere in the house and seeing, but typically blue/white-blue stripe are used for the main line. Older wiring usually had red/green/black/yellow. Each line connection requires 2 wires so hence, there's the reference to blue/white-blue stripe wire pair.

So here's the objective of what I would do. I would set it up so the Vonage wiring is carried througout the house on a pair of wires that is different from the wires carrying the DSL service.

Since you need the connections to where you have the DSL modem there is probably no point in moving anything to the basement.

Now if you have few phones plugged in and don't move them often the easiest is probably to use Line1/Line2 splitters and feed the rest of the house wiring with Vonage on a Line 2 pair. You would need this splitter to plug the Vonage wiring into the wall jack as well as anywhere you have a phone. The jack added for the alarm is only hooked up to a the primary line so you'll need to hook up an another pair there to the yellow/black connections.

As an alternative, if you are comfortable with a few wiring changes, you would use an alternate pair to send the DSL feed into the room where the modem is to be connected and then use the primary pair throughout the house with dialing tone from the Vonage adapter. This requires being able to isolate the wires going to the needed room, or at the very least a L1/L2 splitter, but then it gives you working jacks throughout the house and no changes for the alarm would be necessary.

These are brief summaries, but we can help you out if you have a preference. I don't know if one is better than the other, I'd probably run with the second option if you are up for it.

Let us know and we can proceed. As well there are some additional diagrams in other posts in this sub-forum.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 6:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Thanks !

Now I get it (I think)...

I will disconnect the blue white @ the NIU outside. I will the connect the orange / white in its place. This should bring in the DSL to all jacks. All of the jacks in the house should be inter connected with the blue white. I then either rewire the jack in my office or get a 3 way plug and connect the DSL to line 2 and the phone out from the Vonage adapter to line1.

Then I hope to have a dial tone everywhere. I use a cordless phone with 3 handsets so only reason to have dial tone on the other jacks is for Dish receivers and the alarm. Will the alarm panel also get a dial tone?
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 8:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Basically yes

Actually the jack in your office should already be wired. See you'll actually be moving your DSL access to what should be Line 2 throughout your house.

If you plug a L1/L2 type phone splitter in your office jack you could run from the Jacks L2 port to the DSL modem and then run a return line from the Vonage Adapter into the jack at the L1 spot. This should be enough to give you Vonage everywhere in the house and you would not need to do anything to the Alarm's jack.

You may choose to use straight 6p2c wiring for everything if you wanted to be certain not to cross anything, but as long as you have the right L1/L2 phone splitter and not a regular splitter, it should work.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 8:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Oh

And tape/mark/hide that pair of wires that you disconnect so that no unsuspecting person/owner/telco utitily reconnects them up or things may be fried.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 10:59 pm    Post subject: Thanks! Reply with quote Back to top

THANKS!!!!

I can't wait to try this ... it is late right now.... tomorrow I will try... and will post the results...
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 01, 2009 3:02 pm    Post subject: Mission Accomplished !!!! Reply with quote Back to top

Thanks to Dave and outerfire I am in business...!!! I have DSL and dial tone separated and distributed ...

The cordless phone has been moved to its permanent location a,d my dish network players are able to dial out...and recognize caller id...

I did the system test on the alarm panel and it still comes up with the 1 beep code for line disconnected...Should I do something over there???
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 01, 2009 7:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

outerfire wrote:
... If you plug a L1/L2 type phone splitter in your office jack you could run from the Jacks L2 port to the DSL modem and then run a return line from the Vonage Adapter into the jack at the L1 spot. This should be enough to give you Vonage everywhere in the house and you would not need to do anything to the Alarm's jack...


The alarm panel is supposed to be wired in series with the rest of the house. The line from the telco is supposed to be connected to one side of the alarm panel while the line to the rest of the house is supposed to be connected to the other side. By following the above instructions, you have delivered your Vonage dial tone to the house side of the alarm panel, rather than the telco side. That is why the alarm is complaining that the line is disconnected, it does not see loop voltage on its telco side.

In the jack where the Vonage adapter is plugged into your house wiring, disconnect the blue/white pair and connect the green/white pair in its place. At your central punch-down block (or outside at the NID, if you prefer) connect the green/white pair to the blue/white pair that you disconnected from the telco line. That pair will feed the Vonage dial tone through the alarm panel to the rest of your house. This will satisfy the alarm panel and accomplish your purpose.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 01, 2009 8:39 pm    Post subject: I believe I am getting this... Reply with quote Back to top

THanks Dave


So, by disconnecting the blue/white in the phone jack and connecting the green/white, I am sending the dial tone through the house via the green / white pair. Then, by connecting the green/white to the blue/white at the NIU, I am feeding the alarm panel the dial tone, since the star shaped phone block is wired with blue/white...

Right???

It is going to be a bit of a problem getting to the phone jack in my office...I have to move my big desk...I will attempt this tomorrow...
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 4:23 pm    Post subject: Re: I believe I am getting this... Reply with quote Back to top

shankar wrote:
It is going to be a bit of a problem getting to the phone jack in my office...I have to move my big desk...I will attempt this tomorrow...


If your house wiring is all home-run (each jack connected to the central punch-down block over its own cable) then you can avoid moving the furniture. Figure out which cable comes from your desk, and connect its blue/white pair to the appropriate wiring at the alarm panel.

If not, you could run a new cable from the Vonage adapter to the telephone block that serves the alarm panel. Moving your big desk might be less work, depending upon how many floors, walls, and ceilings are between you and your alarm panel!

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