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PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 1:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Just now I have connected my laptop and my desktop to the same router VT2442 and here is the info

Desktop -> VT2442 -> Modem --- Websites dont open

Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . :
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . :
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . :
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . :

Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:

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Laptop -> VT2442 -> Modem -- all websites work !


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What is the difference between these two - My laptop works and my desktop doesnt ? Sad


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 1:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

I went the all knowing sage, Google and saw a lot of posts about "certain" secure sites will not open and it seems the MTU setting may be the answer (see my previous post)

What is interestng is that as the packets travel through a router they MAY grow, which would explain why you can connect at the modem but not through the router. We are ALL guessing, but worth a try.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 2:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

In the linked article there is a test you can run on your pc,:

"To solve this problem you should reduce the MTU packet size on your router and or on your computer until the fragmentation stops. A simple test for MTU issues can be found here ( http://support.iprimus.com.au/static-pages/mtu-eyechart.html ), called the MTU Eyechart. The MTU Eyechart works by displaying a series of images of certain sizes, increasing down the page. If you get part way and some of the images stop loading, this should indicate what size packets are being dropped."

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 2:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

I really very much appreciate the help from all of you Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 2:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

I have reduce the MTU size to 1463 on my computer ( desktop ) and now some websites have started working...

I am very happy .

Still java.com , sun.com , icicibank dont open. Let me reduce the MTU size in the router and check again .

Thanks a ton everyone !
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 2:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

By the way forgot to tell you

I can see till 10462
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 2:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

vasus wrote:
By the way forgot to tell you

I can see till 10462


Yeah, I am not sure how that test works, but sounds like you MAY be on the right track anyway

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 2:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

someone suggested using a ping test like:
ping yahoo.com -f -l 1492

Keep lowering the size (1492) until it no longer says "Packet needs to be fragmented but DF set". Then begin increasing the packet size from this number in small increments until you find the largest size that does not fragment. Add 28 to that number (IP/ICMP headers) to get the optimal MTU setting. For example, if the largest packet size from ping tests is 1462, add 28 to 1462 to get a total of 1490 which is the optimal MTU setting. :


C:\Documents and Settings>ping yahoo.com -f -l 1492

Pinging yahoo.com [68.180.206.184] with 1492 bytes of data:

Packet needs to be fragmented but DF set.
Packet needs to be fragmented but DF set.
Packet needs to be fragmented but DF set.
Packet needs to be fragmented but DF set.

Ping statistics for 68.180.206.184:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 0, Lost = 4 (100% loss),

C:\Documents and Settings>ping yahoo.com -f -l 1400

Pinging yahoo.com [68.180.206.184] with 1400 bytes of data:

Reply from 68.180.206.184: bytes=1400 time=73ms TTL=53
Reply from 68.180.206.184: bytes=1400 time=73ms TTL=53
Reply from 68.180.206.184: bytes=1400 time=72ms TTL=53
Reply from 68.180.206.184: bytes=1400 time=72ms TTL=53

Ping statistics for 68.180.206.184:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 72ms, Maximum = 73ms, Average = 72ms

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 3:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Thanks every one . I have set my desktop's MTU to 1460 and now it works !

All these days the mistake I was doing was to change the MTU on the router , but realized it today that the MTU size had to be changed on the DESKTOP

I am very happy , all the websites work !!!!
Very Happy

Thanks again and again and again ....
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