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PostPosted: Sat Dec 27, 2008 10:49 am    Post subject: Vonage conflict with Blue-ray/Netflix? Reply with quote Back to top

I have had a VTA-VR Vonage device behind a D-Link DGL-4500 802.11n wireless router for some time now with no issues. I recently purchased a Samsung BD-P2500 Blue-ray player which allows you to stream netflix movies. Whenever the Samsung is plugged into the router, the Vonage device cannot connect. As soon as I unplug the Samsung from the router, Vonage comes back up.

Have checked mac/ip addresses and there is no conflict. Any ideas?
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 27, 2008 8:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

The first thing that would come to mind is that the Bluray player is doing something funky with uPNP. What do you mean by "the Vonage device cannot connect"? Do you hear a message when you pick up the phone?
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 27, 2008 8:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Yeah I get the "Your Vonage device cannot connect to the network" message and the power light blinking. After the blue-ray is unplugged from the router Vonage reconnects and gets dial tone.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 28, 2008 6:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

you might try a wireless game adapter. I use one for my satellite and I have no issues. The wireless game adapter get plugged into my receiver's internet connection and I have no issues.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 28, 2008 12:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Called Vonage and finally figured it out, although it doesn't necessarily make sense. They had me log into the VTA-VR via the ip address my router assigned it and gave it a static ip address out of the range of the other devices. I had tried this doing this on my router and it didn't work, however, once going into the Vonage Device control panel and giving it a static ip address there, viola.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 28, 2008 12:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Glad you got it to work and also posting back.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 28, 2008 11:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Brax wrote:
Called Vonage and finally figured it out, although it doesn't necessarily make sense. They had me log into the VTA-VR via the ip address my router assigned it and gave it a static ip address out of the range of the other devices. I had tried this doing this on my router and it didn't work, however, once going into the Vonage Device control panel and giving it a static ip address there, viola.


I agree it does not make sense . . .

Your Vonage device, the VTA-VR should have had a lease on an address from the router. The Blue Ray should have been assigned the next available IP address.

Anybody have a clue as to why this worked and what the problem was?

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ed56 wrote:

Your Vonage device, the VTA-VR should have had a lease on an address from the router. The Blue Ray should have been assigned the next available IP address.

Anybody have a clue as to why this worked and what the problem was?


That's a common problem with home routers. Your Vonage device was given an IP by the router; at some point afterwards you power cycle the router. Since it has no persistent database of what leases it's given out, it starts over again and gives the new device the same IP it assigned some time ago to the Vonage device. Oops, a conflict.

Normally this isn't a big problem because eventually the lease on the Vonage will be renewed, refreshing the router's list of allocated addresses. With common lease times there's often a 12-24 hour period where collisions can occur.

Also, smart devices will ARP for the address they're about to give out and if they get a response, they won't re-lease it. I've run into a lot of not very smart devices, though.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 2:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

k1mu wrote:
ed56 wrote:

Your Vonage device, the VTA-VR should have had a lease on an address from the router. The Blue Ray should have been assigned the next available IP address.

Anybody have a clue as to why this worked and what the problem was?


That's a common problem with home routers. Your Vonage device was given an IP by the router; at some point afterwards you power cycle the router. Since it has no persistent database of what leases it's given out, it starts over again and gives the new device the same IP it assigned some time ago to the Vonage device. Oops, a conflict.

Normally this isn't a big problem because eventually the lease on the Vonage will be renewed, refreshing the router's list of allocated addresses. With common lease times there's often a 12-24 hour period where collisions can occur.

Also, smart devices will ARP for the address they're about to give out and if they get a response, they won't re-lease it. I've run into a lot of not very smart devices, though.


Thanks for the response. I guess I have never run in to this since as a habit, when I re-power one device in my network, I re-power all, in order.

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