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PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 12:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Appreciate the help but I'm totally confused on this.

I have a connection, just need to make it a secure one.

Thanks for the info but my brain can't get around it.

Also, there is no setup cd for the wap54g or and "setup file" on their site.

I don't know if you caught it also but I can't get to the linksys site (192.168.1.245) on my main PC either.

Oh well -- I'll just live with an unsecured connection for brief episodes.
Is there a software solution for an unsecured connection like this? I know I have the windows firewall -- avg free etc.....is there anything I can do with a software program that is just as good as a "secured wep connection"?

thanks again.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 1:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

The make of the model for the router is Motorola VT2442-VD
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 2:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Zaibotsu,

The VT2442 does not have an actual firewall by definition. It just uses standard NAT. What is it that you were looking to do?
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 7:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

VonTechMgr wrote:
Zaibotsu,

The VT2442 does not have an actual firewall by definition. It just uses standard NAT. What is it that you were looking to do?
I'm trying to open a port or turn off the firewall on the router to play online games. & EA Games notified me stating, "the reason why I can't join a room cause my firewall is on, & I need to open 1 port to except in & out going trafic in order to play.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 7:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

In this case you can either use the DMZ or port forwarding. Port forwarding takes a bit more to configure but will be more secure in the end. DMZ is easy, gets the job done, but is less secure as it will leave your PC open to the internet. Log into the VT2442 and go to the Advanced section then port forwarding.

For DMZ, you will only need to know the IP on your PC which you can obtain from running ipconfig in your command prompt.

For port forwarding, you will need to know your PC's IP address, port number and protocol(tcp, udp, or both). You will most likely need to add a custom port forwarding rule from the Custom link. From this page you just enter the data needed and save the change.

Here is an example of the web interface and somewhat of a tutorial with examples of other applications being setup in port forwarding on the VT2442. You would do the same as what is listed just using the port and protocol for your game.

http://portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/Motorola/VT2442/Command_and_Conquer_Tiberian_Dawn.htm

http://portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/Motorola/VT2442/Azureus.htm

http://216.104.71.5/english/routers/port_forwarding/Motorola/VT2442/Blockland.htm
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 8:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

bellbuster wrote:

I don't know if you caught it also but I can't get to the linksys site (192.168.1.245) on my main PC either.
thanks again.


If I caught your set up correctly, your PC is 192.168.15.4 with a gateway of 192.168.15.1 Also, the router is plugged in to the Vonage device, so it has a dynamically assigned IP in the 192.168.15.xx range as well

It "most probably" has been assigned 192.168.15.2 or 192.168.15.3 or maybe 192.168.15.5.

Since the PC is using 192.168.15.1 as the gateway it should be able to see the router on the assigned IP (not 192.168.1.245.) Try 192.168.15.2 or 192.168.15.3 or 192.168.15.5

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 12:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

VonTechMgr wrote:
In this case you can either use the DMZ or port forwarding. Port forwarding takes a bit more to configure but will be more secure in the end. DMZ is easy, gets the job done, but is less secure as it will leave your PC open to the internet. Log into the VT2442 and go to the Advanced section then port forwarding.

For DMZ, you will only need to know the IP on your PC which you can obtain from running ipconfig in your command prompt.

For port forwarding, you will need to know your PC's IP address, port number and protocol(tcp, udp, or both). You will most likely need to add a custom port forwarding rule from the Custom link. From this page you just enter the data needed and save the change.

Here is an example of the web interface and somewhat of a tutorial with examples of other applications being setup in port forwarding on the VT2442. You would do the same as what is listed just using the port and protocol for your game.

http://portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/Motorola/VT2442/Command_and_Conquer_Tiberian_Dawn.htm

http://portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/Motorola/VT2442/Azureus.htm

http://216.104.71.5/english/routers/port_forwarding/Motorola/VT2442/Blockland.htm
I tried the Command & Conquer link & read all it's steps, but it seems they were only trying to get me connected to the internet. I'm already connected to the internet, besides it's too many steps to take just for a simple problem. I also don't trust sites that I don't know especially having me put in IP addresses I don't know. I only follow steps from the manufacturers or the ones sold the manufacturers product, & I can't get a hold of Motorola, you guys are the closest I can get. Sad But thanx for the responses & the assistance anyways, I guess I there's no way around this problem, But only not to use the router. I need the router for these several connections I have.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 6:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Regardless of whether you had Vonage or not, if you have a router of any make or model, you would need to perform port forwarding or use DMZ to perform the operation you need for this game. I also think your not fully understanding where your putting yourPC IP address. You said you don't like to give out information such as IP on sites you don't know.

When logging into the VT2442 and configuring port forwarding, you are inputting your IP address on the web interface which is internal to the VT2442. You are not posting it where others can see it. You are also gong to be using the IP of your PC which is a Private IP address and is not routable on the Internet. By me telling you that the IP on one of my PC's is 192.168.254.6 would not help even the worlds greatest hacker achieve anything. Private IP addresses are internal to you only.

It looks like you also were very unclear on what the directions were instructing you to do for Command and Conquer. None of the links I posted had anything to do with connecting to the internet. They all showed how to configure port forwarding for a specific application in order for it's communications to traverse the NAT of the router based upon the service ports those applications required.

It honestly doesn't get much easier then that. Possibly you would need someone to walk you through it over the phone but they will instruct you to do exactly the same thing that is posted in the links.


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 7:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Zaibotsu

You probably need a little basic information about NAT routers and firewalls. Actually a NAT router is sometimes called a circuit firewall. NAT stands for Network Address Translation. Consider a PUBLIC IP address that is on the WAN side (the internet) of your router. Without a router, anyone on the intenet can address your computer directly with that public IP address, on any port your PC is open to (and there are a lot!).

Insert the NAT router in between, and anyone trying to access your computer from the outside has a dead end at the router, as it does not know what INTERNAL ADDRESS to forward the request to, and by default blocks MOST ports anyway.

When you are on the WEB, using a browser, and going through the NAT router, YOU initiate a connection through Port 80, which is open by default on the NAT router for traffic initiated BY YOU. The Router knows through the translation, that you made the request and allows the response to your internal IP. Traffic initiated on the oustside on port 80 stops at the router.

Configuring port forwarding for a game works much the same way as allowing you to initiate communication with a browser and sholuld not be any more risky than ordinary web surfing.

However, setting a DMZ (this allows all traffic to be forwarded to your computer) is like hooking your computer directly to the internet, not a good idea.

More information (easier to understand than most sites) is available at http://computer.howstuffworks.com/nat.htm

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 3:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Back to my problem and let me ask simply --

I have to setup the wap54g from the wired pc.

The VT2442 has an IP of 192.168.15.1 so,

what I need to do is have the wap54g set to an IP of 192.168.15.x?

Is that what I need to do? If so, HOW?

I managed to get the Linksys setup wizard for the WAP54g but when I run it, it can find it.

If this setup is POSSIBLE then I can't understand why Linksys can't take the time to post the info or at least have the setup "wizard" direct you in the event it doesn't recognize the access point in your system.

DO THEY THINK EVERYONE OWNS A LINKSYS ROUTER?

IT'S BS.
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