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PostPosted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 6:02 pm    Post subject: Jitter can fall in the yellow Reply with quote Back to top

Booma, I'll try the decaf. To funny. But from your diagram, it looks like I should put in my wireless router before my Vonage box to improve my Vonage jitter. Right now, I have it; cable modem - motorola Vonage box - wireless router - computer. Your diagram shows cable modem - wireless router - Vonage box - computer. This correct?
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 6:11 pm    Post subject: Re: Jitter can fall in the yellow Reply with quote Back to top

jkherth wrote:
Booma, I'll try the decaf. To funny. But from your diagram, it looks like I should put in my wireless router before my Vonage box to improve my Vonage jitter. Right now, I have it; cable modem - motorola Vonage box - wireless router - computer. Your diagram shows cable modem - wireless router - Vonage box - computer. This correct?


My diagram is how I have my set up. It works fine for me, but it is not the recommended method. What Vonage suggests is to put the phone adapter/router directly into your cable/dsl modem then any other gear after the phone adapter/router. This way, as is the case with the Motorola VT2442, you will be taking advantage of the QOS and giving priority to the Voip traffic.

Mine is set up this way because my wireless router is also my cable modem. It's an all in one cable modem/router/WAP. Although I can put it into a mode that makes it act like a modem, it would prevent me from using the WAP portion of it.

Like I said, it works for me just fine. It never hurts to just try it! What exactly is your problem besides the jitter?

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 10, 2006 10:40 pm    Post subject: Re: Jitter can fall in the yellow Reply with quote Back to top

Booma, I occasionally get some breaks in line. Meaning, when you are listening to someone talking, there are some pops or breaks in their speech. Since running the speed test, it seems the jitter is the only possible bad score in my test. That is why I was suspect of the jitter being the culperate of the breaks.

As far as my setup. My wireless router and cable modem are two separate devices, I blieve I prefer the setup I'm using due to I want my phone calls to have priority.

Any ideas on the breaks?
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 7:35 am    Post subject: Re: Jitter can fall in the yellow Reply with quote Back to top

jkherth wrote:
Booma, I occasionally get some breaks in line. Meaning, when you are listening to someone talking, there are some pops or breaks in their speech. Since running the speed test, it seems the jitter is the only possible bad score in my test. That is why I was suspect of the jitter being the culperate of the breaks.

As far as my setup. My wireless router and cable modem are two separate devices, I blieve I prefer the setup I'm using due to I want my phone calls to have priority.

Any ideas on the breaks?


Do you recall your test id number, I will take a look at the audit and get back to you.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 2:15 pm    Post subject: Jitter can fall in the yellow Reply with quote Back to top

where do I find the test id number?
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 2:39 pm    Post subject: Re: Jitter can fall in the yellow Reply with quote Back to top

jkherth wrote:
where do I find the test id number?


When the test completes it is listed on the speed page for some reason, however clicking it needs the server authentication details us/pw. If you hit the keyboard letter 'i' when the test finishes it will open an audit window with the TCP trace details for review.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 2:52 pm    Post subject: Jitter can fall in the yellow Reply with quote Back to top

I got the info up following your instructions but can't find a test id =
So I am pasting the info that might contain the numbers you need in it. If not, let me know.

MyVoIPSpeed (tm) 6.0c NOC Professional - http://www.myspeed.com - © 1999-2006 Visualware
java=Sun Microsystems Inc. Java 1.5.0_06
client=Windows XP 5.1 x86
url=http://205.234.111.151/
server=Visualware MyVoIPSpeed Server NOC Edition 6.0c
SID=null
Beginning test, ip=205.234.111.151, port=UDP-20000...
Found server, sending data...
Finished test, obtaining results...

Loss: 0.0% (=0/749)
Order: 100.0% (=560252/560252)
Jitter: ave=5.66ms, max=45.6648865153538ms
tickres=1 ms
DOWNLOADING via mss.download.port=20000
socket buffers: snd=8192 rcv=65536

max pause=245 ms
DOWNLOADED 3,466,652 bytes in 8065 ms (3,438,712 bps) SZ=104857600 F1=250116 F2=4056 EX=101136776
[0,1613) = 798,703 bytes (3,961,329 bps)
[1613,3226) = 757,606 bytes (3,757,500 bps)
[3226,4839) = 760,569 bytes (3,772,195 bps)
[4839,6452) = 796,633 bytes (3,951,062 bps)
[6452,8065) = 353,138 bytes (1,751,459 bps)
QOS=44% (353138/798703)
UPLOADING via mss.upload.port=20001
socket buffers: snd=65536 rcv=8192
UPLOADED 313,664 bytes in 7900 ms (317,632 bps)
128 ms
120 ms
119 ms
RTT=119/122 (/205.234.111.151:80)
MSSID=1584
Asking JavaScript to eval 'mss(3438712,317632,44,119,245)'
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 3:05 pm    Post subject: Re: Jitter can fall in the yellow Reply with quote Back to top

jkherth wrote:
I got the info up following your instructions but can't find a test id =
So I am pasting the info that might contain the numbers you need in it. If not, let me know.

MyVoIPSpeed (tm) 6.0c NOC Professional - http://www.myspeed.com - © 1999-2006 Visualware
java=Sun Microsystems Inc. Java 1.5.0_06
client=Windows XP 5.1 x86
url=http://205.234.111.151/
server=Visualware MyVoIPSpeed Server NOC Edition 6.0c
SID=null
Beginning test, ip=205.234.111.151, port=UDP-20000...
Found server, sending data...
Finished test, obtaining results...

Loss: 0.0% (=0/749)
Order: 100.0% (=560252/560252)
Jitter: ave=5.66ms, max=45.6648865153538ms
tickres=1 ms
DOWNLOADING via mss.download.port=20000
socket buffers: snd=8192 rcv=65536

max pause=245 ms
DOWNLOADED 3,466,652 bytes in 8065 ms (3,438,712 bps) SZ=104857600 F1=250116 F2=4056 EX=101136776
[0,1613) = 798,703 bytes (3,961,329 bps)
[1613,3226) = 757,606 bytes (3,757,500 bps)
[3226,4839) = 760,569 bytes (3,772,195 bps)
[4839,6452) = 796,633 bytes (3,951,062 bps)
[6452,8065) = 353,138 bytes (1,751,459 bps)
QOS=44% (353138/798703)
UPLOADING via mss.upload.port=20001
socket buffers: snd=65536 rcv=8192
UPLOADED 313,664 bytes in 7900 ms (317,632 bps)
128 ms
120 ms
119 ms
RTT=119/122 (/205.234.111.151:80)
MSSID=1584
Asking JavaScript to eval 'mss(3438712,317632,44,119,245)'


I really need to see the full TCP trace data as the QoS is bad and the Max Pause is high indicating a consistency issue. I need to fathom how material the TCP pause gaps are. The system is able to support a 1ms resolutiuon indicating that the platform is capable but the summary shows a final segment of only 1.7mbps versus the previous 4 segments average 3.8mbps. over a 50% drop and the QoS is only 44%. The RTT is constatnt so it is important to review the TCP gaps to see if there is a throttle or congestion issue.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 3:59 pm    Post subject: Jitter can fall in the yellow Reply with quote Back to top

Do you want me to paste the whole report in a message or do you want me to send it to you another way?
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 4:45 pm    Post subject: Re: Jitter can fall in the yellow Reply with quote Back to top

jkherth wrote:
Do you want me to paste the whole report in a message or do you want me to send it to you another way?

You can email it to techsupport@visualware.com
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