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PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 10:45 pm    Post subject: Remote Desktop Reply with quote Back to top

So I would like to be able to access my PC through remote desktop, I use to able to this with my modem connected to the linksys WRPT54G, I would just open the 3389 port.....but now its more difficult with the V-portal. My V portal is 192.168.15.1 and the linksys wireless router says its pulling IP address 192.168.15.2. and the Private IP of my linksys and PC are 192.168.1.X How do I go about gettting throught the V portal......leading me to the wireless linksys....then to my PC??
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 7:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

I assume you are talking about acessing your PC on remote desktop from the outside (the internet).

If so, you will need to set up port forwarding on both devices, your vportal and your linksys.

Port forward port 3389 to 192.16.15.2 on the vportal and also on the linksys to the IP of your PC.

To make this "bombproof" you should set static addresses for both yoiur linksys and your PC. If your linksys were to get unplugged, 192.168.15.2 would still be leased and it then the linksys may be assigned 192.168.15.3, disrrupting your port forwarding. Same for the PC.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 1:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

so set my linksys to 192.168.15.2 I got that. My private ip scheme is 192.168.1.x for all my PCs, is that a problem? When I tried this I couldnt access the internet. What should my PCs be looking at for Default gateway and DNS? The Linksys or the vportal? I cant believe this would be that difficult but I seem to be having issues.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 3:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Steve1983 wrote:
so set my linksys to 192.168.15.2 I got that. My private ip scheme is 192.168.1.x for all my PCs, is that a problem? When I tried this I couldnt access the internet. What should my PCs be looking at for Default gateway and DNS? The Linksys or the vportal? I cant believe this would be that difficult but I seem to be having issues.


Here is what I did:

Cable Modem assigns a public IP to the Vonage device. The Vonage device has DHCP for the WAN and LAN side, but I start the DHCP LAN side at 192.168.15.3, essentially nullifying any assignments.

My Linksys (on the WAN side) has a static IP of 192.168.15.2 with a gateway and dns of 192.168.15.1. It's DHCP on the LAN side is on, assigning for the PC's starting at 192.168.55.40 for 50 IP's, therefore reserving above 192.168.55.90 as static. The Gateway and DNS for the DHCP LAN side is also set to 192.168.15.1, just like the WAN side.

Then, I port forward on the Vonage device to 192.168.15.2 and on the Linksys (in my case) to 192.68.55.130. I am using VNC and FTP using this scheme.

Lastly, you can add secondary DNS IP's on both sides of the linksys(LAN and WAN) from opendns.com (208.67.222.222 and 208.67.220.220)

Hope this makes sense to you

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 6:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Set 192.168.15.2 up as a DMZ on the vportal. This will simulate your linksys being connected directly to your cable modem. Vportal only has one port so it will always be 192.168.15.2, unless you change the subnet of corse.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 6:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Miner49er wrote:
Vportal only has one port so it will always be 192.168.15.2, unless you change the subnet of corse.

Not necessarily true. when I did it that way and disconnected the router, 192.168.15.2 was already assigned a lease and the Vonage device assigned 192.168.15.3 to the router.

DMZ will work, as you have port filtering on your router (not opening up your network to attack). I highly advise against setting DMZ on both devices, as your network would be at risk.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 7:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

I am going to assume you have it set up as follows:

MODEM -> WRTP54G -> V-PORTAL

(note, you can reverse the WRTP54G and V-PORTAL for this discussion, doesn't matter).

Anyway, any machine behind (in this case) the V-PORTAL is going to have some problems if the WRTP54G and the V-PORTAL share the same IP address range.

Take one of the two and change its base IP address (the DHCP server IP address range) to 192.168.14.x, and things should get better.

If your PC is behind (again, in the diagram above) the V-PORTAL, then you have two choices.

1. (best): Move all PCs to the WRTP54G level, so the V-PORTAL and any and all of your computers are peers, then the WRTP54G should be able to forward ports all day long.

2. Forward from the WRTP54G to the V-PORTAL, then from the V-PORTAL to your PC - clumsy, prone to problems, and probably not really great for either router, since you are asking two consumer-grade routers to each do NAT forwarding.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 8:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Well I have it setup like:

Modem --> V Portal --> Linksys WRT54G --> PC

I can switch it easy! I was just concerned with QoS for the Vportal being on the end. I game quite a bit, and I was concerned about the house phone being a poor quality. So I would like to go the route with my linksys on the front end....it would make my life and gaming better, but will this effect my phones? Is there like a QoS best practices within either the Vportal or the linksys??
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 8:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

WRT54G is a good router - I have one of the older Linux based ones myself. There's nothing wrong with putting your V-Portal behind that unit and making it a "peer" to your PCs.

Modem -> (WAN) WRT54G
- WRT54G (LAN) -> V-Portal
- WRT54G (LAN) -> PC (or PCs)

Also, if by "WRT54G" you meant a Vonage WRTP54G, then that's OK too. If it worked for you before, it should work for you now. The QoS on the WRTP54G blows chunks, but other than that it's a half-decent consumer router, and is fully capable of port forwarding. Smile

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 8:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

So no QoS issues?? Known of that is? Is there QoS on v portal?
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