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PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 1:01 pm    Post subject: Re: Confused Reply with quote Back to top

ed56 wrote:
I am almost certain it will not work with Vonage. who said "buy one from India and it should be a breeze"?

Looks like it is going to cost you a trip to the store, partner. Come back and let us know either way, OK? No doubt this will come up again and we need to quit guessing here Exclamation

Just be sure you read the manual and go through the setup, please. And don't zap the new one with 4160 or anything. LOL

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 1:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

1. I'd rcvd a 12V DC Adaptor with the Vonage Box so it cant be that the box doesnt support such power volatge.

2. I'd like to clarify that i have a Linksys PAP2 ver. 2 so specs for this model may be different.

3. Vonage doesnt provide service in India so i doubt if I can find the right VTA at the store either.

4. The same guy who's sent me the box told me I can buy one in India. He's unsure now though once I told him about the firmware and jazz.

Lord, Am stuck. I need to make phonecalls daily and there seems to be no way out.

One thing that may help clear some confusion. I already have a phone plan activated on this box. It has a phone number assigned to it. If i buy a new device can they(someone in US who sent me the box) swap the phone number with the new MAC address?
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 1:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Just go to vonage.com and on the start page you will see where if you bought the thing in the store you can register the new MAC address and opt to use that one instead of the old one.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 1:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

hemantb1 wrote:
One thing that may help clear some confusion. I already have a phone plan activated on this box. It has a phone number assigned to it. If i buy a new device can they(someone in US who sent me the box) swap the phone number with the new MAC address?


You go to the main vonage.com page and click Bought it at a store" and "add a Vonage retail device to my account" sub-menu.

It will ask you for information regarding the MAC address or serial number (if a non-vonage device, it will not let you proceed), your account etc. This will let it add to your devices.

Then log on to your Vonage account and go to add-ons then move a number and move your number to the new device.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 1:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

BTW it says on the adapter where you plug in the juice what flavor voltage to use. Does it say 12VAC? I doubt it somehow. Come to think of it he said he had an AC adapter and had converted it to DC. Pretty good trick for a guy who needed all this hand holding.... Confused

Say, is this a gag? Is this a Vonage tech with too much time on his hands who's pulling our leg Question

Somebody pass me a mirror. I need to see if it says SUCKER on my forehead. Embarassed

The specs clearly say that it doesn't take 12v, so who would include a twelve-volt (AC mind you) power supply with this unit? Obviously not Linksys. I should have picked up on the inconsistencies of his BS story long ago. Like I said, it's been a senior moment all morning. Cool

Anyway, this guy is in India. Prolly New Delhi. He can just stick his head out the window and shout for Vonage tech support, right Question Razz

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 6:13 pm    Post subject: Just a Post Script Here Reply with quote Back to top

Just a post script here...

I was imagining some people having their innards churning and twisting in knots over the plight of this poor individual should he actually be a real person in India. Poor dear in that God-forsaken country where cattle are to be adored and who is just trying to eke out a bunch of bucks on the cheap.

I mean let's face it. If he is "for real" he bought this bogus, shipped-on-the-sly, piece-meal Vonage adapter thingy and obviously got taken by someone just like him who saw him coming. You don't buy an adapter from any reputable company and have the wrong p/s, wrong voltage, wrong current, thrown into the box. Who knows what he was told, this sincere individual who was victimized by some unscrupulous pirate? That he could con Vonage out of their fee somehow and here's the forum site to get advice?

I mean: Reality Check here! Is this a victim, even assuming this isn't a gag after all?

I'm retired now, but when I worked I did electrical contracting. Someone who owned a couple of restaurants here in the Dallas area called Kebob and Kurry called me in to make some repairs. I gave him an honest estimate. He assumed I was gouging him. Or, perhaps this is some sort of sickness with them that they have to chisel their fellow human beings out of their reasonable due.

I let him do his el cheapo thing because I felt sorry for him. He made it sound like he was fighting for his very existence. (Truth was this was his first location but he later built another).

Later he had problems with his second acquisition and called me back. Naturally he wanted an estimate. I calculated what an honest price would be, then doubled it and gave it to him.

We haggled and chiseled and hemmed and hawwed and when he was done and accepted the deal, he ended up agreeing to $50 more than I had written down (to myself) as my estimate.

Now can you understand why I have no sympathy for this guy? Either way he is a crook, whether telling the truth (about being in India) or just pulling our strings here.

If he is a real Indian then is it any wonder why they are a third-world country?

C'mon God. Clean up this mess. Hellava way to run a planet Exclamation

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 2:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Ok, All you folks
Would you stop whining for a while
And cut the crap about third world and cattle worship and tha jazz
I thought this was a Tech forum and I'd rather not be racist here

1. You guys need to read a little bit better - I did say the adaptor upplied is a 12 V DC and not AC. In India, Poweer supply is AC and not DC. Hence I had to convert the DC power to AC which I did using a transformer. Didnt work out apparently.

2. Lets not make assumptions about who has conned me or if someone has made a mickey out of me. I did not pay for the Vonage box and shipping so plz hold on to your horses before you jump the gun.

3. I think I came at the wrong place asking for suggestions. I have no idea why would you so called 'developed country' folks would make hoopla about India and call it a TWC just because we have a different POWER Supply. I guess a few of you who posted such messages were actually looking for an online pharmacy and rather found this forum.

Anyhow, There have been plenty many supportive members and I'd like to thank them. The rest, May god give you peace and a bit of gray matter.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 9:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Here is an article from:
http://www.india-travel-agents.com/india-guide/power-and-voltage.html

Check your wall-wart and make sure you are plugging it into a proper voltage/Htz. source. While there seems to have been a lot of chatter about the secondary side of the class A transformer (talk of 12V DC), little has been said about the primary side.

Electricity in India is 240 Volts, alternating at 50 cycles per second. You will require a voltage converter if you are carrying a device that does not accept 240 Volts at 50 Hertz. To adjust your device according to the power and voltage in India, the following three types of Voltage converters may be used:

Resistor-network converters
This type of converter usually supports approximately 50 -1600 Watts. They are lightweight. You can easily use this converter for high-wattage electrical appliances like hair dryers and irons. But, you can use them for short periods only and they are not ideal for digital devices.

Transformers
Transformers support low watt rating, around 50 – 100 Watts. Generally, you can use them continuously. Also, they provide better electricity for low wattage appliances like battery chargers, radios, laptop computers, cameras, mp3 players and camcorders. Their drawback is the low wattage and heavy weight.

Combination converters
Combination converters are also manufactured by some companies. They are a combination of a resistor network and a transformer in the same package. You can easily switch between the two modes. If you need both types of converters, then it is better to buy this combination converter.

Outlets in India generally accept the following types of plug:

* Two round pins
* Three round pins arranged in a triangle

If your appliances plug has any other shape, you will need a plug adapter. If you plan to travel a lot in the future, it is better to get a combination voltage converter and a plug adapter.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 10:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

He's already got the primary side taken care of... assuming this guy is for real and this isn't some sort of huge ho-ax, that is. It sounded like he bought a p/s locally. How he ended up with over twice the voltage and half the current that his PAP2 needs I have not figured out, even after three pages of posts.

Three pages we went on with this guy. That's why I feel this must be a gag. No matter what we did it was never enough. We did everything we could think of short of getting on a plane and setting it up for the guy in person.

Apparently he took the p/s that came with the adapter and matched it to something that would work locally. But if that is the case then he obviously bought some pirated bootleg setup and not something from a reputable retailer.

If what Ed says is true about his adapter needing Vonage firmware pre-installed then he is SOL unless he can get the correct p/s locally and make the old one work, assuming it isn't fried. And that assumes he didn't get ripped off and buy something that isn't even Vonagey. And the more I think about it, the more what Ed says makes sense. How does an adapter straight out of a retail box know to hook up to the Vonage network without being somehow programmed in advance?

Then, assuming he can get his PAP2 to work, I wonder if he won't fry his phone with the excessive ring voltage.

And finally, how does he set up an account with Vonage in the first place? Somebody said that Vonage doesn't service India. There's probably a good reason. I suspect that theirs is a monopoly-money currency. I mean do the forex traders deal in Indian rupees?

There are too many unanswered questions here for this to be a legitimate deal. Service him if you want, but it looks like this guy is under a curse (assuming again that this is a real situation even) and you will end up making another three pages of posts and be right back where you started, methinks.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 10:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Methinks you're right!

I think I'll go and sweat some copper pipes, these electrons are getting to me. I shouldda been a plumber. Wink
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