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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 2:52 pm    Post subject: Vonage and land line over Cat5 Reply with quote Back to top

How do you run Vonage and a separate phone connection over Cat5. This seems like it should be easy enough but after looking through several forums here there seems to be doubt.

My setup:
I have a fairly new house with what is referred to as smart house / wiring.
The cable comes in from outside to a punch down box in the downstairs closet. From there Cat5 cable (for the phone) is run to the kitchen and bedrooms.

Easiest solution:
It seems like I should be able to take the phone connection that comes out of the Vonage router and plug it into a second FJ11 jack using Line 2 (orange and white) wires. Then any room I want the Vonage line is I can just add a second RJ11 jack and plug the phone in . The normal phone is using Line (blue and white) wires.

Note: in the closet where everything comes together all eight wires are connected in the punch down but at each jack only the two (blue and white) wires are connected.

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So can I or can't I do this and if the answer is no I would ask why FMI.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 6:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Yes, you can do it that way. Of course, the Vonage adapter uses the line 1 terminals in the RJ11, so you would have to modify a patch cord so that it connects to line 2 instead, or, as I think you have in mind, change the wiring of the wall jack so that the orange/orange-white pair hooks to where the blue/blue-white normally hooks.

Another easy way to do it is to get an L1/L2 splitter. This is not a simple Y-splitter that converts one RJ11 into two identical RJ11s. This is a splitter that plugs into an RJ11 wall jack and connects line 1 from the wall jack to the line 1 terminals on one output jack. It connects line 2 from the wall jack to line 1 on a second output jack. Using one of these, you can plug the adapter into the wall and the Vonage box into the L2 jack on the adapter. Then use a similar adapter in each room where you want to use the Vonage line.

Any way you do it, you'll want to make sure that all the orange/orange-white pairs for the different rooms are connected together at the punch down.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 12:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

I had not thought about the fact that the telephone line coming out of the Vonage router is using line-1. I will probably just create a new line that crosses over from line 1 (blue/blue-white pair) to line 2 (orange/orange-white pair). This way I will not have to re-wire any of the wall jacks that will only use the land line. However your suggestion will be worth looking into.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 8:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Yup, a crossover cord is another way. Just be sure that you've got things right before you plug them in. Getting the Vonage box hooked to an active land line would almost certainly let the smoke out of your Vonage box.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 10:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

I have to ask how accidentally hooking the Vonage line up to an active land line can cause any permanent damage. I can see where it it would cause a problem while both were connected to the same line but that's it.

If this can in fact cause damage can both lines (Vonage and my MCI land line) both going through the same "smart" panel cause any issues.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 9:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

The normal open line voltage on a telephone line is around 50 volts. Connect two different 50 volt sources together, possibly with opposite polarity, and bad things can happen. I probably overstated it when I said "almost certainly" let the smoke out of the Vonage box, but the potential for damage to the box is there. Damaging the land line is, however, very unlikely. Damaging your home wiring is also very unlikely. It's not something to get real worried about- just be careful.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 9:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Thanks, your responses have been very helpful
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 4:53 pm    Post subject: help on connecting vonage along side landline Reply with quote Back to top

hi, i am a Vonage customer. i have taken a basic landline connection so that my home security system works on it. but when my phone is connected to the phone jack, it uses the landline as primary line.

Can some one help me with step by step instructions in layman's terms how i can have my phone setup to use Vonage line(incoming and outgoing), but still keep the landline as secondary line for my home security system.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 8:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

I assume that what you're trying to do is use your house wiring for both phones. How you do that depends on how your house is wired.

However, I'll assume for the moment that your house is wired like many, using RJ11 jacks with all four contacts wired. That provides for 2 lines. (You can open a jack and confirm that there are 4 wires connected to it, all different colors.) If this is the case, then your landline is hooked to line 1. That's why plugging in your phone makes it use the landline. The phone is wired to pick up line 1 from the jack. To make it work with Vonage the simplest way, get two of the splitters called "line1/line2 (L1/L2) splitters. (These are not the same as simple Y splitters.) Plug one of them into the wall jack where you want to plug your phone; plug the other into a wall jack where you want to plug in your Vonage box. Plug your phone into the L1 port on one of the splitters. You should hear the dial tone for your landline. This is just a test.

Now plug the phone into the L2 port. You should not hear a dial tone. Now plug the Vonage box into the L2 port on the other splitter. Make sure you get this right; don't plug it into the L1 port. Now you should hear the Vonage dial tone on your phone, and you're ready to go. You can move both splitter and phone to any other jack, or get more splitters to use more phones with other jacks.

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