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PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 11:28 am    Post subject: Using VoIP wired handsets for room-to-room intercom Reply with quote Back to top

I have ADSL, with a wired modem/router, feeding into a switch, and from there one Cat 5 cable going to each room in our 4-bedroom house. We have been using that as a normal wired home network.

I propose to plug in a small hub in each room to allow the simultaneous connection of one computer and/or one Phone Adapter in each room. I would be using wired telephones plugged into these. Is there any problem with doing it this way?

Finally, if all that is acceptable, would there be a way of speaking between rooms, using those handsets, simply using our local routing? You see my study is on the ground floor, and my husband will be in the loft, or who knows in what room, and it would be good to be able to pick up a phone and make all the other handsets ring instead of yelling for him.

We were doing it using DECT before, but we've become anti-electrosmog wimps (sorry) and so only use wired solutions now.
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If I understand you correctly, you're proposing to have a separate Voip phone adapter in each room. If you're using Vonage and want all of these adapters to be on the same number, it won't work. Vonage only services one adapter at a time per phone number. If you want a different phone number in each room, it should work if you have enough bandwidth, but you'd actually have to place a call to a room to use it as an intercom- not very practical.

If you have a Cat5 to each room, you could dedicate one pair for phone service, and use one adapter to energize it. I'd be leery, though, about having phone and data on the same Cat5. The ideal setup would be to have 2 Cat5s to each room- one for data and one for phone. Of course, if you have existing phone wiring that is separate from the Cat5 to which you refer, then you can use that to carry the Vonage service around the house.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 4:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Thank you. It's a good thing I asked before going ahead! That's disappointing though because, no we don't have any other wiring in place and I was actually looking to this as a way to avoid having to do any more wiring - lol. If we are going to run more wires anyway then I will probably just get a little PABX and stick to BT for our service.

On the other hand if we did decide to use Vonage, with a single wired phone adapter (with any necessary extra wiring added) then how does one perform a voice call between rooms?

Also can I just clarify one thing - can't the phone adapters call each other via our local network anyway if they each have an IP address, even if only one of them has the right to use the Vonage network?
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 7:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

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On the other hand if we did decide to use Vonage, with a single wired phone adapter (with any necessary extra wiring added) then how does one perform a voice call between rooms?


With extra wiring, you'd just use a phone that had intercom capability. Vonage wouldn't be providing anything extra in that area.

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I'm afraid not. An adapter provides an interface between an ordinary telephone and the internet. How it behaves with the internet is the key. A Vonage adapter establishes contact with the Vonage servers, and the servers, in turn, pass traffic to and from the adapter. Unless a Vonage adapter can register with Vonage, it can do nothing, and only one can do that at a time.

Now, could you do it if you had non-Vonage Voip adapters and the necessary technical know how? I suspect so, but I don't have that know how myself. Something like Skype might do what you want.

Don't forget the option of using one pair in the CAT5 for wired phone service. Even if I'm leery about it, that doesn't mean it won't work. Also consider multi-handset cordless phones. I think some of them have intercom capability. Vonage would provide phone service at the base station, and the phones would take care of the intercom function.

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Don't forget the option of using one pair in the CAT5 for wired phone service.


As far as I know, all the wires are punched into the network sockets already. Are you saying some of those are not actually needed for carrying the computer data?

We're not worried about voice quality, because if it looks like being a long chat I can simply go to a room with a dedicated phone line. I'd be more worried about degrading the data to the computers. And of course it needs to be able to ring the phones - that is important with a 3-storey house.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 7:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

I'm definitely not an expert in this area, but my understanding is that ethernet connections use 2 pairs. CAT5, of course, has 4 pairs, which would seem to leave 2 pairs available. I think I saw somewhere that there are different ethernet wiring standards, but all of them leave one of the CAT5 pair open.

Anyway, it's something to investigate. You need to be very careful, since the voltages used for telephone service are definitely not compatible with ethernet equipment. Nevertheless, it may be possible to use splitters to pull that unused pair out and use it as you will. And, of course, you could always parallel a phone jack (RJ11) with the ethernet jack (RJ45) in the wall.

But, this is just an idea on my part. Investigate carefully before attempting to use it.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 4:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Thank you Steve
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Just a thought. Wouldn't it be possible to use the computers that are in the rooms to help you accomplish the goal of an intercom? I'm just brainstorming here. Or is there a room without a computer? I definitely agree with Steve's assessment that Vonage does not provide such services.

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