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PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2004 1:57 pm    Post subject: Use the Linksys RT31P2 as a switch only? Reply with quote Back to top

a topic similiar to this one has already been created 3 months ago, but the answer to that topic was basically for the author to re arrange his network and put the RT31P2 in front as his primary router. something i dont want to do.

so heres my run down (for the sake of simplicity, this paragraph does not need to be read, its just a run down of my config, for anyone that needs it )
ive setup routers for several people and a configuration like this i would assume is simple enough but due to lack of configuration options its not.
so here is my dilemma, i have 1 pre existing linksys router , and due to events beyond my control i now have a RT31P2 which will go upstairs for convenience, and my old router will stay downstairs, i want to use the RT31P2 as a switch only and i want it behind my router, and still have port forwarding functionality to my upstairs machine. i accomplished this already using these steps, basically i disabled dhcp on the RT31P2, gave it the default gateway of my old router 192.168.1.1, and instead of plugging my internet link from my old router to the wan port of the RT31P2, i plugged into one of the 3 ports, hence making it a switch, simple enough, i have internet connectivity to all my machines and i have port forwarding, and in a perfect world id be finished, BUT, it seems if you dont plug your internet link into the wan port of the RT31P2, the phone ports wont look for a valid connection (and your phone lights dont turn on )

so ill ask the question again, is it possible to use the RT31P2 as a SWITCH ONLY, and still have Voip connectivity ???? i read several post, everyone said yes, but didnt give any instructions on how to, and the author usally was told to make the RT31P2 the primary router. I i have just setup my RT31P2, as a switch only, i dont need to be schooled on how to setup it as a switch or told to make the RT31P2 my primary router, right now as a switch it works perfectly, i can browse the web, my port forwarding still works, and its almost seamless. but it seems if nothing is plugged into the wan/internet port, the Voip doesnt work. thanks in advance Question
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2004 2:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

as a side note, i do realize i can purchase a standalone switch and split the connection between the upstairs pc and the RT31P2,

or i can run a new set of wires for the RT31P2 and basically have 2 sets of wires, one for my upstairs machine and one for the RT31P2, but id still like to know if my RT31P2, being used a switch only is possible
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2004 6:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Use the Linksys RT31P2 as a switch only? Reply with quote Back to top

bunun wrote:
so ill ask the question again, is it possible to use the RT31P2 as a SWITCH ONLY, and still have Voip connectivity ???? i read several post, everyone said yes, but didnt give any instructions on how to, and the author usally was told to make the RT31P2 the primary router. I i have just setup my RT31P2, as a switch only, i dont need to be schooled on how to setup it as a switch or told to make the RT31P2 my primary router, right now as a switch it works perfectly, i can browse the web, my port forwarding still works, and its almost seamless. but it seems if nothing is plugged into the wan/internet port, the Voip doesnt work. thanks in advance Question
No.

Although your machine hanging off the RT31 is working to the internet, that is b/c as you said, the RT31 is acting as a switch. The internet traffic is routed through your pre-existing Linksys router. The Voip side never sees that data. The RT31 (excuse my crappy Visio) operates like this:

RT31 ---> Voip port
\
--->Switch port 1
---> switch port 2

If you have something on the switch ports, it can "see" other switch ports, but not the Voip or the reverse. From my understanding the Voip and the switch are completely separate. There is no way to direct traffic from the switch ports to the Voip from the switch side, only from the WAN side.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 10, 2004 8:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

if that is true, i wonder if the RT31P2 is hard wired not to look for internet access from the switch ports, or this something that can be fixed in a firmware upgrade, how bizarre
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 10, 2004 1:15 pm    Post subject: Re: Use the Linksys RT31P2 as a switch only? Reply with quote Back to top

Although your machine hanging off the RT31 is working to the internet, that is b/c as you said, the RT31 is acting as a switch. The internet traffic is routed through your pre-existing Linksys router. The Voip side never sees that data. The RT31 (excuse my crappy Visio) operates like this:

RT31 ---> Voip port
\
--->Switch port 1
---> switch port 2

If you have something on the switch ports, it can "see" other switch ports, but not the Voip or the reverse. From my understanding the Voip and the switch are completely separate. There is no way to direct traffic from the switch ports to the Voip from the switch side, only from the WAN side.[/quote]

reading that and trying to understand your reasoning, doesnt make sense, there are 4 ports in total on the RT31P2, there is internet and 3 switch ports, to say that Voip will only be activated if the internet port is in use, sounds more like a design flaw, or something that should be addressed in firmware, since thousands upon thousands of customers already have pre existing routers and not everyone wants to make vonages router on top. BAH !!!

time to run another 50 ft cable to upstairs, since my RT31P2, is currently taking up the cable that used to be for my upstairs machine
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 10, 2004 1:19 pm    Post subject: Re: Use the Linksys RT31P2 as a switch only? Reply with quote Back to top

Blademan wrote:


Although your machine hanging off the RT31 is working to the internet, that is b/c as you said, the RT31 is acting as a switch. The internet traffic is routed through your pre-existing Linksys router. The Voip side never sees that data. The RT31 (excuse my crappy Visio) operates like this:

RT31 ---> Voip port
\
--->Switch port 1
---> switch port 2

If you have something on the switch ports, it can "see" other switch ports, but not the Voip or the reverse. From my understanding the Voip and the switch are completely separate. There is no way to direct traffic from the switch ports to the Voip from the switch side, only from the WAN side.


reading that and trying to understand your reasoning, doesnt make sense, there are 4 ports in total on the RT31P2, there is internet and 3 switch ports, to say that Voip will only be activated if the internet port is in use, sounds more like a design flaw, or something that should be addressed in firmware, since thousands upon thousands of customers already have pre existing routers and not everyone wants to make vonages router on top. BAH !!!

time to run another 50 ft cable to upstairs, since my RT31P2, is currently taking up the cable that used to be for my upstairs machine
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 10, 2004 2:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

See if this works:

1. Disable NAT and DHCP on the RT31P2
2. Connect a patch cable between the Internet port and a LAN port.
3. Connect one LAN port to the other router
4. Connect the last LAN port to your computer

That sounds like it should work, in theory...
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 10, 2004 2:59 pm    Post subject: Re: Use the Linksys RT31P2 as a switch only? Reply with quote Back to top

bunun wrote:
reading that and trying to understand your reasoning, doesnt make sense, there are 4 ports in total on the RT31P2, there is internet and 3 switch ports.
Let me try to clarify.

For the sake of our discussion, the LinkyRT31 routes as follows:
Internet to/from Ethernet ports
Internet to/from Vonage phone ports
no routing or packets can go from Vonage to/from Ethernet ports.
bunun wrote:
to say that Voip will only be activated if the internet port is in use, sounds more like a design flaw, or something that should be addressed in firmware, since thousands upon thousands of customers already have pre existing routers and not everyone wants to make vonages router on top.
I agree that many people have pre-existing routers. But in order for the typical non-technical user, the RT31 type router needs to run "on top" or first in the chain to provide QoS and bandwidth management.

I will eventually have my RT31 hanging off my IpCop/LEAF Bering-uClibc/ClarkConnect/whatever-distro-I-feel-like-this-week, but not until I can get Vonage running as close to a POTS line as possible.

If you're that die-hard about running it in the current location, put a switch in the location of the RT31, plug the RT31 into one of the switch jacks, and use the RT31 as an endpoint for the Voip phone jacks, and ignore the ethernet switch side of the RT31. That way you won't have to deal with another network/subnet behind an existing network/subnet.
Internet -- router -- switch -- RT31

just my $.02
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 10, 2004 3:01 pm    Post subject: Re: Use the Linksys RT31P2 as a switch only? Reply with quote Back to top

FIRST OFF, thanks 200 to Blademan for that post, im pretty sure i would of given up if he didnt post the statement confirming the RT31P2, will not run Voip if there is nothing attached to the internet port

well people i have done it, and it works flawlessly, i am now using the RT31P2 as a switch only, and also using Voip at the same time behind a router, and still have port forwarding functionality, id like to mention it would be great if Vonage, allowed there end users to customize there hardware more, for different environments. for anyone who wants to use the RT31P2 as a switch only here are the instructions, if you find a simpler way please post, but due to the lack of configuration options in this router, i dont believe it isnt
so here is what you need to do (ONLY REASON I DID THIS WAS BECAUSE IM TO CHEAP TO BUY ANOTHER SWITCH Smile )

login into the RT31P2, change your connection type to obtain ip address automatically, if its not already set to that, and disable the local dhcp server, and than change the router address of the RT31P2, from 192.168.15.1 to a ip address from your primary router, my routers ip scheme is 192.168.1.x. so i changed the RT31P2, address to 192.168.1.150.
press save and you should lose internet connectivity

part 2 (optional) now you can either let your machine pick up a ip address from your pre existing router (thats what i did) or you can statically assign the ip address from your primary router to your machine, to statically assign on xp you go to start/ control panel / network connections / right click on local area network, and click on tcp/ip and properties
for ip address input 192.168.1.13 (or whatever you'd like) subnet mask is 255.255.255.0 and default gateway is 192.168.1.1 (that is the ip address of my primary router)

after pressing ok, you should not have internet access and your Voip phone might not work, so here is the final step, unplug the internet port from your RT31P2 and plug it into the first normal port (so now you should have 2 ports left) now plug port 2 into your computer ( now you should have 1 port left) and finally plug a ethernet cable into port 3 and plug the other end of that ethernet cable to the internet port of the RT31P2.
AND WALLA !!!
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 10, 2004 3:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

paul248 wrote:
See if this works:

1. Disable NAT and DHCP on the RT31P2
2. Connect a patch cable between the Internet port and a LAN port.
3. Connect one LAN port to the other router
4. Connect the last LAN port to your computer

That sounds like it should work, in theory...


LOL i fixed it 2 hours ago, and it took me 10 minutes to write my post, and it looks like i started writing before you posted your solution, yes it does work, i didnt have to disable NAT, and a a normal ethernet cable was suffice thanks a bunch for the reply
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