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PostPosted: Fri Dec 10, 2004 7:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

paul248 wrote:
See if this works:

1. Disable NAT and DHCP on the RT31P2
2. Connect a patch cable between the Internet port and a LAN port.
3. Connect one LAN port to the other router
4. Connect the last LAN port to your computer

That sounds like it should work, in theory...
Great "out of the box" thinking. Hats off!
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 11, 2004 4:21 am    Post subject: One follow up ? Reply with quote Back to top

Quick F/U: Once you have the RT31P2 working as a switch, can you "see" the other computers on your network? Do you have file sharing among the computers?

Thanks!
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 11, 2004 5:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Awesome solution for people with existing routers. Thanx for the heads up!
I also heard around that it was better to have Vonage's Linksys router hooked directly to the cable/dsl modem first in the chain...for optimal audio quality using what they call "Quality of Service option", but on my cable modem, I've got plenty of bandwidth, and haven't had any issues with this setup, thus far. Can everyone concur?
I'm just glad I'm not stuck using the Linksys as my primary router.

Thanx.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 11, 2004 10:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

syrcle wrote:
I also heard around that it was better to have Vonage's Linksys router hooked directly to the cable/dsl modem first in the chain...for optimal audio quality using what they call "Quality of Service option", but on my cable modem, I've got plenty of bandwidth, and haven't had any issues with this setup, thus far.
The LinksyRT31 and the wireless variant do use built-in QoS out of the box, to guarantee Voip packet priority, at least on the uplink. Even though you have plenty of bandwidth, the problem comes when you decide to send a big JPEG to you friend, or your webserver on your internal network gets hit hard. At that point, when all of your upload bandwidth is utilized, without QoS, your Voip Vonage traffic is like any other packet: it may or may not get through quickly, and will have to share the road with other packets. With QoS, your voice packets are guaranteed priority, like the HOV commuter lanes on the freeway.

The Linksys router isn't the only way to do QoS, it's just out of the box, and plugged in first in the chain; it's the simplest/easiest way to setup QoS for Voip.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 11, 2004 11:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

BTW, QoS must be setup on whatever router/firewall you have that is connected to the Internet first. If you use the above setup to use the RT31 as a switch, the RT31 is no longer capable or in a position to do QoS. You'll need to setup your Linksys router or wondershaper on your firewall etc to tag packets from the RT31 for QoS.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 11, 2004 2:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Back to top

Thanx for the heads up. The main reason for my decision on adding the Vonage Linksys router on to my existing router as a switch, as opposed to making it a primary router was just the scaled down features that the Linksys offered in comparison to my Netgear router I currently use.
To test some of waht you said, I had a conversation on my Vonage line, while uploading video files to two different servers offsite. During this long process, my call quality never hiccuped dramatically at all. In fact, it stayed exactly the same. I even taxed my bandwidth some more by streaming a Quicktime trailer at Apple.com, while doing the above. Still no problems.
I spoke with a network engineer friend of mine, who explained to me, that really QoS is helpful in situations when you have multiple streams of uploads coming from your location at the same time, such as peer to peer programs like KaZaa. Otherwise general uploading tends to get balanced out most, if not all the time.
Since I don't use KaZaa, it's probably not an issue.

I'm thinking I'm gonna just stick to using the Linksys as a switch for now, and if I start noticing call quality degrading, for some reason, then perhaps, I will re-consider and go back to the suggested config, of using the RT31 as the primary router.
Options are always good.

Thanx.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2005 1:24 am    Post subject: My own instructions: Linksys RT31P2 with existing router Reply with quote Back to top

I'm no network expert. I read a bunch of posts in various forums and here's the simplest way I've found to make it work without disturbing an existing router. I've tried to word everything as simple as possible and start from the time the Linksys RT31P2 still has factory settings...


PRINT THESE INSTRUCTIONS.

These instructions assume the Linksys RT31P2 still has the factory settings. If you’ve already changed the settings, you can reset to factory settings by holding down the Reset button at the back of the router for 10 seconds. If you already have your Voip service working with the Linksys RT31P2 router, you can skip to STEP 2.


STEP 1: Getting the Linksys RT31P2 to connect to the Internet and getting Voip to work with your phone (without your existing router).

You’ll need to write down some information from your existing router. DSL users: write down your username and password. Cable users: write down the router’s MAC address. Everyone: write down the DNS addresses from your existing router’s settings.

Unplug the Internet (WAN) cable from the back of your existing router and plug it into the Linksys RT31P2’s Internet jack. (This is the cable that connects your DSL/cable modem to your existing router.)

Unplug the cable that connects your computer to your existing router. Connect the cable from your computer to jack 1, 2 or 3 behind the Linksys RT31P2.

Open your Web browser and go to 192.168.15.1 to access the Linksys RT31P2. Use admin/admin as the username/password.

Configure the Linksys RT31P2 to connect with the Internet.
DSL users: Select PPPoE next to Internet Connection Type, click Save Settings at bottom.
Cable users: Click the MAC Address Clone tab, select Enable next to MAC Clone Service, enter the MAC address from your existing router (do not click the “Clone” button as that will change the MAC you just entered), click Save Settings.
If DNS addresses were required in your existing router, enter those addresses into the Linksys RT31P2’s settings as well. Remember to click Save Settings.

Open your Web browser and visit some websites to ensure connection to the Internet is successful. The power light on the Linksys RT31P2 router may blink for up to 5 minutes while it communicates with your Voip service provider for updates/settings. Once the power light has stopped blinking, plug a telephone into the Linksys RT31P2’s telephone 1 or 2 jack. Pick up the telephone handset and check for a dial tone.

(At this time, you can either leave the Linksys RT31P2’s password and IP address as set by the factory or change it to your preference.)


Step 2: Getting the Linksys RT31P2 to work with your existing router. (If you skipped Step 1: write down the DNS addresses from your existing router. Then unplug the cable that connects your computer to your existing router and connect the cable from your computer to jack 1, 2 or 3 of the Linksys RT31P2.)

Access the Linksys RT31P2: Open your Web browser and enter the IP address of the Linksys RT31P2 (the default address is 192.168.15.1). Enter the username/password (default is admin/admin).

Select Static IP from the drop-down list next to Internet Connection Type.

Next to IP Address, enter an internal IP address. (I used 192.168.1.20 because my existing router’s DHCP is set to assign IP addresses from 192.168.1.10 to 192.168.1.20. You can try this address as well. If it doesn’t work, you’ll have to look into your existing router’s DHCP settings to determine what IP address to use.)

Leave Subnet Mask as 255.255.255.0.

Default Gateway is the IP address of your existing router. (This is the IP address you enter into your browser to access your existing router.)

Enter the DNS address(es). (You wrote these down earlier from your existing router).

Click “Save Settings” at the bottom of page.

Unplug the cable from the Internet jack behind the Linksys RT31P2 and plug it back into your existing router’s Internet (WAN) jack.

Connect a network cable from any jack on your existing router (other than WAN/Internet) to the Internet jack of the Linksys RT31P2.

Pick up the telephone handset and check for a dial tone. If you hear a dial tone, all is well.

You can now disconnect your computer from the Linksys RT31P2 and plug it back into your existing router.
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